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Subject: Give Me Hudnah Or Give Me Death
SYSOP    1/11/2013 5:28:37 AM
 
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trenchsol       1/11/2013 8:40:35 AM
I am not convinced that religion itself might be the only source of violence. More likely there is a political interests that work in synergy. In case of Islam related violence, I believe it is about Pakistan, Iran and, partly, Saudi Arabia.
 
Pakistan believe that Islamic radicalism might help against India and gain them control of Afghanistan. Pakistanis might set their sights to Bangladesh again, if they become less worried about India.
 
Iran wants the leadership of Islamic world and expansion towards Gulf.
 
Saudi Arabia wants to increase its influence, and acts irresponsibly, backing up radical groups who, at some point, become terrorists and beyond control.
 
Many Arab countries functioned as secular states between the end of WWII and and of Cold War.  Some of them were allied with former Soviet Union, and backed terrorism which was not Islam related.
 
Religion is a powerful rallying cry, but, I think, it doesn't work alone. If the political motives were removed from the picture, religious related violence should decrease.
 
DG
 
 
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Steele       1/11/2013 1:09:31 PM
There are exactly two philosophical systems that make a holy sacrament of dishonesty and trickery, Islam and Marxism.  Both think that they should control the world.  Both are willing to make temporary alliances with the other, just as Hitler and Stalin made an alliance, with each expecting to betray the other when preparations are complete. 
 
"Dishonesty," "trickery," and "control" are concepts associated with psychopathy.  Psychopaths always lose, but will cost you great pain and resources before they lose. 
 
 
 
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Shahnaz Latif    Shahnaz Latif   1/11/2013 6:27:10 PM

Please don't judge Islam by the actions of fanatics, Mullah who want power

in the name of Islam.  Islam never spread by force. In the early

days of Islam, when the Holy prophet of Islam  did not force  his enemies to accept Islam. He or any of his successors never convert anyone by force.

Whatever is going these days in different countries is because of wrong doers,

who are using religion for power or missguides Muslims for their own

benefit.  Please visit >>. to get the true teaching of Islam.

 

 
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Belisarius1234    Learn your history.   1/12/2013 5:17:36 AM
 
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actions of fanatics, Mullah who want power


in the name of Islam.  Islam never spread by force. In the early



days of Islam, when the Holy prophet
of Islam  did not force  his enemies to accept Islam. He or any of his successors
never convert anyone by force.



Whatever is going these days in
different countries is because of wrong doers,



who are using religion for power or
missguides Muslims for their own



benefit.  Please visit >>. to get the true teaching of
Islam.



 



 
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canadian1       1/12/2013 6:04:38 PM
the goal and motive of islam is clear and it is to islamise the world with any means and usually by force
and that is proven through the history and its is clear in the Koran Muslims they shell lies  kill,deceive
and do whatever it takes to achieve their goal ,look anywhere in the world that Muslims exist you will
find only death no tolerance to other religion and non Muslims  so please do not tell me that islam is a
religion of peace you just have to hear what the mullahs preaches in the mosques   
 
 
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Steele       1/12/2013 7:56:57 PM
Shahnaz Latif -
 
I spent five years in Sa'udi Arabia, and I had many good Arab friends.  I agree that there are only a few fanatics, but there are many supporters and financiers of the fanatics, and almost no Arab tries to eliminate terrorism unless they are directly affected by it.  And many Arabs take support from the Iranians to keep the terrorism going.  Now if the Arabs would band together and eliminate the terrorism, you would be more believable.
 
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Shirrush    Ahmayiah   1/13/2013 4:31:12 AM
 
actions of fanatics, Mullah who want power


in the name of Islam.  Islam never spread by force. In the early days of Islam, when the Holy prophet

of Islam  did not force  his enemies to accept Islam. He or any of his successors
never convert anyone by force.


Whatever is going these days in
different countries is because of wrong doers,



who are using religion for power or
missguides Muslims for their own



benefit.  Please visit >>. to get the true teaching of
Islam.

Hello Mr. Shahnaz Latif, good to have you here. In my honest opinion, while your religious interpretation may, hopefully, be the future of Islam, it is in no way representative of the current, jihading mainstream.
There's a small Ahmadi community here in Israel, in the rather upscale Kababir neighborhood of Haifa. The Ahmadis here are held in high regard, as they're better citizens than of the most other communities composing the Israeli mosaic, and they are totally unrepresented in the local prison population. I have learned that they are courageously prozelytizing in the Palestinian territories, and I wish them success since it is the kind of change that will ultimately bring peace and progress to our war-torn region.
 
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nadia siddiqua       1/13/2013 5:36:55 PM
Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.Islam lays down the principle of freedom in religious matters in clear and unambiguous terms,and teaches not to use the sword for the conversion of non-Muslims.Islam provides complete freedom to believe or to deny,as the Holy Quran says; There should be no compulsion in religion,surely,right has become distinct from wrong.'(2;257) Same there is no room for terrorism in Islam.We find specific injunctions in the Holy Quran,"And create not disorder in the earth after it has been set in order".(7:57)     And commit not iniquity in the earth causing disorder".(11:86)
..."Whosoever killed a person-unless it be for the killing of a person or for creating disorder in the land-it shall be as if he had killed all mankind".(5:33)  Islam always encourage the freedom of conscience and the promotion of human welfareIslam not only preaches peace and brotherhood but also promotes tolerance , broad-mindedness, forbearance and complete harmony in a multi-religious society.The Holy Prophet of Islam (PBUH) tried his best not to hurt the feelings of others, and provided an excellent example by his deeds for the believers.Unfortunately because of Muslims fanatics ,Islam is portrating as a bad religion in this time period.But because of followers of some religion you cannot blame that religion is bad.These are the Mullahs who are creating disorder in the earth in the name of religion.May Allah show them right path and give guidance to the world that they might be see the beautiful face of Islam.To see the beautiful teachings of Islam please visit                          
 
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canadian1       1/14/2013 3:52:07 PM
see thats the problem and the deception of Islam in one hand you say it is a religion of peace but it is
far from that in one section in the Koran  you preaches tolerance and in another you preach hatred
and stop blame and hide behind that it is only a small group of people witch you claim they are  
fanatics . i just wonder why Christian and Jews are called infidels and they are charged heavy
taxes or wehat Muslim call it (jisiah) and they are not permitted to practise their faith and in most cases 
they are executed   it is a facts islam does not recodnize any other religion and there is lots of proofs to
back that up
 
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Belisarius1234    Acts not words.   1/14/2013 5:55:31 PM
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Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.Islam lays down the principle of freedom in religious matters in clear and unambiguous terms,and teaches not to use the sword for the conversion of non-Muslims.Islam provides complete freedom to believe or to deny,as the Holy Quran says; There should be no compulsion in religion,surely,right has become distinct from wrong.'(2;257) Same there is no room for terrorism in Islam.We find specific injunctions in the Holy Quran,"And create not disorder in the earth after it has been set in order".(7:57)     And commit not iniquity in the earth causing disorder".(11:86)

..."Whosoever killed a person-unless it be for the killing of a person or for creating disorder in the land-it shall be as if he had killed all mankind".(5:33)  Islam always encourage the freedom of conscience and the promotion of human welfareIslam not only preaches peace and brotherhood but also promotes tolerance , broad-mindedness, forbearance and complete harmony in a multi-religious society.The Holy Prophet of Islam (PBUH) tried his best not to hurt the feelings of others, and provided an excellent example by his deeds for the believers.Unfortunately because of Muslims fanatics ,Islam is portrating as a bad religion in this time period.But because of followers of some religion you cannot blame that religion is bad.These are the Mullahs who are creating disorder in the earth in the name of religion.May Allah show them right path and give guidance to the world that they might be see the beautiful face of Islam.To see the beautiful teachings of Islam please visit                          


 
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