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ilpars Australia, uninvadable 6/7/2004 7:16:06 AM

I think Australia is one of the countries that can not be invaded. Others are Russia, China and USA. First of all Australia is an island on an Ocean. Every potential enemy's supply line must cross over thousands of km. of Ocean. that will be a logistical nightmare. 2. Australia is a very big country. Australia has a strategical depth. Even if initial enemy landing succeded, there is too many depth too retreat. 3. A large population with strong military traditions.

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AMTP10E RE: No country is uninvadable 6/7/2004 7:56:58 AM

There are, however, countries that would be so bloody difficult and costly to invade that it just ain't worth it. I've wargamed (as both Australian and Kumarian) the invasion of Australia and it can be done. You just need 3 things: you need to be smart, you need strategic surprise, and you need America to sit it out.

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ilpars RE: No country is uninvadable 6/7/2004 8:10:36 AM

I am not a military expert but these are my opinions. 1. An invasion fleet can not achieve a strategical surprise in the age of satellites and awacs when crossing thousands of kimometers of Ocean. 2. Creating and protecting such a long oversea supply line is too difficult nearly impossible. And if I remember correctly Australian submarine fleet is not small or inexperienced. They will be a constant threat.

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gf0012-aust No country is uninvadable - Ilpars - AMTP10E 6/7/2004 8:21:26 AM

Tactical surprise: There are some who argue that the "kumarians" could attempt an invasion by saturation on small boats. The argument was used on masses of small "refugee" boats used as transporters. small enough to be deceptive, draught shallow enough to be impervious to a torp attack massed enough for australias fleet interdiction to choke on the sheer volume and able to do a "Cole" if an unsuspecting skimmer pulled in too close. The fact that we use boarding parties from a distance would minimise that - but the issue of saturation is still a possible. It's a bit Tom Clancyish, but it's still gameable.

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ilpars RE:No country is uninvadable - Ilpars - AMTP10E 6/7/2004 8:24:56 AM

Let's say they achieved to land on Australia. How will they supply? Days of living off the land ended long time ago.

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AMTP10E RE: No country is uninvadable 6/7/2004 8:28:01 AM

You're assuming that Australia would actually have much of a Navy or Air Force after the first 24 hours of combat. For a relatively small cost in men as equipment you can kneecap the RAN and the RAAF in less than an hour. And I hope that you could call me a military expert (if not then I better resign my commission).

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AMTP10E RE: No country is uninvadable 6/7/2004 8:40:57 AM

Oops! That should be "For a relatively small cost in men and equipment"

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gf0012-aust No country is uninvadable AMTP10e 6/7/2004 8:42:33 AM

The issue of kneecapping gets down to one of preparedness. A judicious OPFOR could make very short work of Aust forces - depending on their placement and depth in country. One would hope that complacency is not one of those benign traits that lead to early decapitation.

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ilpars RE: No country is uninvadable 6/7/2004 8:49:12 AM

How can enemy destroy most of the subs in 24 hours? I mean if Australia do not cooperate. For a perfect battle like Cannae, you need a Hannibal on one side and a Varro on the other side. I think most of the subs are in patrol all time in secret routes for these kind of surprise attacks. And losing the entire Navy and Air force is not end of the game. Then enemy needs to occupy the territory. Which is the hardest part.

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fall out RE:No country is uninvadable - gf 6/7/2004 8:53:13 AM

im sure we would notice many thousand's of small boats massing to our northern border and hence may well be able to pre-empt some action and destroy some in dock, etc.

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