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Subject: RAAF Shornets
gf0012-aust    7/21/2008 3:39:33 AM
The first fuselage has been jigged up... 23 to go
 
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DropBear       7/12/2009 10:14:57 PM
are you being obtuse?
 
Nope, just correct and consistant.

get a pic of a gumby and place it next to the happy snap at the start of this thread.
 
Can go one better than that. Have the official Federal Standard Colour chart with FS codes, Hex codes and in service designators.

one will be light grey - the other is significantly darker.
 
Obviously. They are the exact colours as I stated originally and have not moved my position on. You were the one who used a generalised term of light grey and dark grey. These are not the colours used.
ie the principle colour of the airframes/fuselage  is different, I'm not talking about the penanting or the racing stripes.
 
Neither am I and that is what I stated several times. I am talking about the fuselage paint, NOT the national insignia or sqn markings.

I assume that (like me) you have seen a gumby and a Shornet up close.  They are very different colours of grey.T he former is a whole lot darker.
 
Yes, I have worked at Amberley and seen them up close. Am aware they are different colours. Am also aware that there are at least twenty-three shades of grey used on American and NATO aircraft and that the two colours I mentioned for the SH and the other one for the Pig are it. That was my whole point all along. It was you that said one was light grey, the other dark. I am not denying that fact, merely pointing out the official names for anyone that was interested at the time. Wasn't interested in getting into a verbal dutch roll over it.
 
FS 36320 Dark Compass Ghost Grey TPS. RGB Hex Code 818B8D on top of the fuselage and FS 36375 Light Compass Ghost Grey TPS. RGB Hex Code 9598A1 on the bottom.
 
The F-111G is FS 36118 (414A53) Medium Gunship Grey.
 
Anyway, I am ending this here.
 
Cheerio.
 
 
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gf0012-aust       7/12/2009 11:00:33 PM

are you being obtuse?
 
Nope, just correct and consistant.

and as you point out yourself, one is lighter and the other darker.  if you want to production certification and reference numbers it doesn't change the ultimate fact.  one is lighter than the other.


get a pic of a gumby and place it next to the happy snap at the start of this thread.

Can go one better than that. Have the official Federal Standard Colour chart with FS codes, Hex codes and in service designators.

see above 

one will be light grey - the other is significantly darker.
 
Obviously. They are the exact colours as I stated originally and have not moved my position on. You were the one who used a generalised term of light grey and dark grey. These are not the colours used.

should I quote milspec and buss numbers when talking about mounting weapons systems, or is it easier just to say that they're railed, certified and fitted?


ie the principle colour of the airframes/fuselage  is different, I'm not talking about the penanting or the racing stripes.
 
Neither am I and that is what I stated several times. I am talking about the fuselage paint, NOT the national insignia or sqn markings.

and we go back to point one.  one airframe/fuselage is lighter than the other.   'twas my point all along



I assume that (like me) you have seen a gumby and a Shornet up close.  They are very different colours of grey.T he former is a whole lot darker.
 
Yes, I have worked at Amberley and seen them up close. Am aware they are different colours. Am also aware that there are at least twenty-three shades of grey used on American and NATO aircraft and that the two colours I mentioned for the SH and the other one for the Pig are it. That was my whole point all along. It was you that said one was light grey, the other dark. I am not denying that fact, merely pointing out the official names for anyone that was interested at the time. Wasn't interested in getting into a verbal dutch roll over it.

neither was I, I was making it something very simple, a binary comparison.  If I want to be anal I'd role out the manuals and start quoting  references.   I didn't think and wasn't heading towards a literal comparison.  hence binary comparison.  Otherwise I'd be a bort.


FS 36320 Dark Compass Ghost Grey TPS. RGB Hex Code 818B8D on top of the fuselage and FS 36375 Light Compass Ghost Grey TPS. RGB Hex Code 9598A1 on the bottom.


The F-111G is FS 36118 (414A53) Medium Gunship Grey.

Anyway, I am ending this here.
 
thanks.  colour matching was never a topic of interest for me. (apart from what DSTO do with "light grey" for signal management reasons.  
 
Still unsure as to why you're getting a hard on about what is self evident.  one is lighter than the other.  I'm probably just as wrong if I say that army mogs are green, and that abrams are like a desert tan, but everyone will know what I mean.  :)
 
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gf0012-aust       7/12/2009 11:10:12 PM
just in case some aren't familiar with the term "bort"


 
 
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Aussiegunneragain    Bruno   7/13/2009 8:24:38 AM




thanks.  colour matching was never a topic of interest for me. (apart from what DSTO do with "light grey" for signal management reasons.  

 
Still unsure as to why you're getting a hard on about what is self evident.  one is lighter than the other.  I'm probably just as wrong if I say that army mogs are green, and that abrams are like a desert tan, but everyone will know what I mean.  :)


Don't lie, you love colour matching just like the other little bitch.
Now go and scratch each others eyes out
 
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Aussiegunneragain    AE   7/13/2009 8:27:00 AM
Absolutely, well known fact that "Red Wunz go Fasta" :)

Sigh, what a great line from a great song ... its a pity that if I started singing it around a winter bomb fire in politically correct Canberra I'd be thrown in.

 
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gf0012-aust       7/13/2009 8:31:23 AM
Sigh, what a great line from a great song ... its a pity that if I started singing it around a winter bomb fire in politically correct Canberra I'd be thrown in. 

a "bomb fire" ???  geez you do have big balls..... :)
 
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Aussiegunneragain    GF   7/13/2009 9:10:54 AM


Sigh, what a great line from a great song ... its a pity that if I started singing it around a winter bomb fire in politically correct Canberra I'd be thrown in. 



a "bomb fire" ???  geez you do have big balls..... :)
I didn't quite get what you were getting at so I looked up "bomb fire" in the trusty urban dictionary and got this.
 
"1.
bomb fire
 
What stupid people say that don't know it's spelled BONFIRE."
 
 

Bugger.
 
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Aussiegunneragain    GF   7/13/2009 9:10:59 AM


Sigh, what a great line from a great song ... its a pity that if I started singing it around a winter bomb fire in politically correct Canberra I'd be thrown in. 



a "bomb fire" ???  geez you do have big balls..... :)
I didn't quite get what you were getting at so I looked up "bomb fire" in the trusty urban dictionary and got this.
 
"1.
bomb fire
 
What stupid people say that don't know it's spelled BONFIRE."
 
 

Bugger.
 
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gf0012-aust       7/15/2009 7:52:43 AM
happy snaps without the footy team in front are now on the Defence site....
 
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bj64    Kookaburra?   7/16/2009 10:03:00 AM
Er... isn't the "flying Kookaburra with the bomb in it's claws" the insignia of the F-111C 1 & 6 sqn? Or do they extend that to the Hornets as well?
 
I've seen 3 sqn Hornets with an "Eagle and a flying bomb" (90th Anniversary duco-job), but not the Kooka.
 
BJ64:)
 
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