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gf0012-aust    3/5/2008 2:16:59 AM

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gf0012-aust       3/5/2008 2:19:28 AM

muppets on yahoo

it's unbelievable some of the rubbish promoted as fact on this site...  the scariest thing is that some of them are adults
 
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Herald12345       3/5/2008 2:48:28 AM
Well there are some legitimate gripes I read there.

Beagles or Typhoons refitted to Australian specs might have been better than Hornets, but of course the buy dates as I pointed out elsewhere are wrong.

Leopard 2+Marder+PZH 2000 as a package deal would have been a smart move-trouble is that you have to set up your own parts chain of manufacture/supply as the units are OOP.

The criticisms of the M-1 are so far off the beam I wonder iof the guys occupy the same planet I do.

Sprogs were a ripoff. There is better US and Eurocopter product out there. Trouble is that you start with clean birds specifically sized that must be fitted out with everything you need; except for the Sea Hawk; and the latest Lynx and from what I understand now; there are issues with both of those birds with their ASW kits.

Spec writers need to be a lot more careful in writing the mission to equipment requirement fits. This is a lesson that the US has to learn.

The USAF tanker decision fiasco, the right bird but the wrong timing and reasoning, [POLITICS (Alabama versus Washington State), involved: oh yes there are already ugly rumblings over it]  is just the latest lesson.

Herald
 
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gf0012-aust       3/5/2008 2:53:57 AM

Well there are some legitimate gripes I read there.

There are some legitimate gripes, but some of those gripes are accompanied by ill informed (if any) technical commentary.

Anyone can bitch. ;) but those who have a clue offer solutions that are based on actual requirements and criteria - they don't base it on broadsheet journalism and TV programs that have been found wanting....

there are far too many wannabes in there.....
 
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Aussie Diggermark 2       3/5/2008 5:25:53 AM
Might be time to head on over and create some mayhem.... :)
 
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gf0012-aust       3/5/2008 5:54:21 AM

Might be time to head on over and create some mayhem.... :)

you have far greater tolerance levels than I do....  I'm just a grumpy old fart....
 
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SCisback       3/5/2008 5:59:20 AM
Is that Rudds public think tank for the new white paper?
 
 
 
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gf0012-aust       3/6/2008 2:54:46 AM
i'm not joining that forum as yahoo triggers too many alerts, but if someone has the patience, then here's some ironic useful info:

*Fearing fighter gap, Navy mulls new jet buy*




By Philip Ewing - Staff writer, Air Force Times

Posted : Wednesday Mar 5, 2008 20:31:51 EST

The Navy is considering buying 69 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighters to bridge a ?strike-fighter gap? that commanders fear could imperil aviation readiness at a time when older jets are wearing out before new aircraft are ready to take their place, top service officials said Wednesday.

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead, who appeared before a Senate panel with Navy Secretary Donald Winter and Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway, mentioned the ?fighter gap? in written testimony submitted to the Senate Appropriations Committee defense subcommittee, which convened to review the Department of the Navy?s fiscal 2009 budget request.

After the hearing, Roughead said Navy planners worried that many of today?s Super Hornets would be at the end of their service lives by about 2015, but their scheduled replacement, the F-35 Lighting II, might not be ready to fill the vacancies in carrier air wings. They also worried that the exiting fighters would wear out quicker than planned. Roughead said he doesn?t know if the Navy would buy the existing E- or F-variants of the venerable fighter or if planners would be interested in a so-called ?4.75 generation Hornet? with improved avionics that manufacturer Boeing has mentioned as an option for some defense clients.

?We?re still a ways away from all that,? Winter said.

The Navy is to be just one of many customers for the Lockheed Martin-built F-35, which also will be manufactured in two other versions for the Air Force and Marine Corps, as well as export versions for several countries, including the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada. But it isn?t the first future client to consider buying a batch of new Super Hornets as a stop-gap measure in case the F-35 doesn?t enter the fleet on schedule:

In 2006, Australia?s defense ministry said it wanted to buy 24 F/A-18Es or Fs to be sure it had a reliable air defense capability until its first F-35s arrived.
 
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Volkodav       3/6/2008 3:09:09 AM
so-called ?4.75 generation Hornet
 
 
OMG here we go again!
 
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Herald12345       3/6/2008 10:35:57 AM
Boeing is SHAMELESS.

Herald
 
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Herald12345       3/6/2008 10:37:47 AM
So is LockMart.

Herald
 
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