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Subject: oerlikon guns v .50cal
thruster    10/1/2007 10:42:39 PM
gday all. after visiting this site regularly for sometime, i thought i'd take the opportunity to write my first post here.

my question to you all is why do you think the RAN has gone for the .50cal as secondary shorter range weapon, when there must be tons of 20mm oerlikon guns left over from the war?

im not bagging the .50cal, i believe its a superb weapon, but in the naval asymmetric setting i'd of thought the extra range and weight of fire from a flex mounted oerlikon would be more significant.

im interested in your thoughts. cheers.
 
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ThePuss       10/7/2007 1:22:40 AM

The Navy is going 25mm Typhoon and 50 cal Mini Typhoon in a big way. Having seen them in action I'm more than satisfied that they would work a treat on some fast moving trouble makers.


Yet another F'ing system I now have to F'ing maintain!. Real fun to play with though. My barge got them recently for our upcoming dash for cash run, and now all the dibbies are sad because the gameboy operators get to shoot their guns and they still have to clean them, quite funny really!.
 
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Volkodav       10/7/2007 7:00:13 AM
Well maybe if the dibbies stayed in school longer than year 4 they might have been able to get a more interesting job.
 
They can still man the rails with their Styers and minimi's to repel boarders though.
 
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thruster       10/14/2007 2:26:39 AM
hi there

by coincidence ive just stumbled across a short vid of a firing 20mm Hispano. im not trying to specifically rehash this point but i will venture ( cos i cant help myself) to suggest that defending a ship with this, is better than with a .50cal. as i think the vid demonstrates.

anyway, i thought you may be interested.

(im still new to all this) so go to militarphotos.com and look for the 20mm Hispano link.

cheers always. :-)
 
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Nichevo       10/14/2007 6:14:29 AM
In discussions of the GECAL .50, I had understood the .50 cartridge to be ballistically superior to the 20mm round; flatter shooting or longer ranged, perhaps.  Might this be a consideration?  Absent computer-directed fire, it might increase hit probability, esp. with higher cyclic.  The logistics would also be lighter for the .50 but this might matter little for shipboard duty.
 
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gf0012-aust       10/14/2007 6:36:28 AM

In discussions of the GECAL .50, I had understood the .50 cartridge to be ballistically superior to the 20mm round; flatter shooting or longer ranged, perhaps.  Might this be a consideration? 

There are 20mm sniper systems available, so I'm not so sure the issue of wandering trajectory applies.  Maybe that part round has a load curiosity....
 
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Nichevo       10/14/2007 6:55:24 AM



In discussions of the GECAL .50, I had understood the .50 cartridge to be ballistically superior to the 20mm round; flatter shooting or longer ranged, perhaps.  Might this be a consideration? 


There are 20mm sniper systems available, so I'm not so sure the issue of wandering trajectory applies.  Maybe that part round has a load curiosity....

I do know that in general USAAF a/c in WWII stuck with the .50 over the 20mm throughout the war.  Certainly in fighter a/c...
 
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