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gf0012-aust    9/28/2007 2:55:04 AM
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gf0012-aust       9/28/2007 2:59:36 AM
 
+ follow on blurb
 
what I like is the fact that its on a phalanx mount - ie a non intrusive weapons mount.  and that means you could fit the sucker onto virtually anything with decent inherent stability (land and sea) ......
 
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Laser Weapons Closing in on Reality

 Are we actually starting to close in on laser weapons?  Could be.  For years, ray gun researchers have been saying that 100 kilowatts is the minimum power required for battlefield-strength blasters -- a level that hasn't been hit (yet).  But Navy officials now claim they've got the makings of a workable ray gun that uses only a fraction of that power. 

Laserphalanx_2http://blog.wired.com/defense/images/2007/07/03/laserphalanx_2.jpg" width=374 border=0> In a presentation and white paper given last week at a meeting of the American Society of Naval Engineers, Captain David Kiel said that lasers using as little as 10 and 20 kilowatts were used to blast mortars and zap small watercraft.  Neither the Navy -- nor its corporate partner, Raytheon -- is saying exactly how they pulled it off.  But the key, according to Kiel, is fiber lasers, which (to oversimplify) use optical threads -- instead of crystal slabs or vats of chemicals -- as the ray's power source.   They're considered some of the simplest kinds of lasers to use -- and to combine into even stronger beams.

In a proof-of-principle demonstration of a fiber laser at Sandia National Laboratory in June 2006, Raytheon destroyed mortar rounds, at ranges of interest, using a commercially purchased fiber laser, thus showing the effectiveness of this type of laser, with low beam quality, against targets of interest. Furthermore, in late summer of 2006, a series of static field tests conducted at NSWC [Naval Surface Warfare Center] Crane, Indiana, against a variety of missile seekers at tactically significant range, demonstrated again the reliability and utility of a commercial fiber laser. These demonstrations validated the lethality model and engagement simulation and paved the way to a deployable near-term fiber laser weapon.

But these weren't just isolated tests, Capt. Kiel, with Naval Sea Systems Command, insists.  By fiscal year 2009, he believes he can have a fiber laser-powered version of the Phalanx mortar-shooting system -- already deployed in Iraq -- ready to demonstrate.

In the fiber laser arena, there is a focus on near-term weapon system demonstration instead of development of laser device capabilities. For these demonstrations, the development time span is 2-4 years and concentration is on the use of commercially available lasers (COTS) to augment existing weapon systems capabilities. Emerging program plans involve replacing the Gatling gun in a Phalanx mount and working to improve both laser beam quality and laser output power for a demonstrator system which is currently called Laser Weapon System (LaWS). The primary objective of the LaWS Program is near-term transition of the laser weapon to the warfighter. Its shipboard missions include addressing threats such as
the asymmetric threat among several others, The LaWS Program plans development of a weapon system starting in mid FY 2008 a

 
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Volkodav       9/28/2007 6:15:57 AM
It would be fairly light weight too so could be placed nice and high in a ships super structure without screwing up stability giving it a much greater horizon.
 
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gf0012-aust       9/28/2007 6:25:51 AM

It would be fairly light weight too so could be placed nice and high in a ships super structure without screwing up stability giving it a much greater horizon.


what should get the USN and US Army excited is that the USN already has generation technology to juice these suckers up for constant power.
 
If they shove these near the taiwan straits, then any chinese air offensive or missile offensive will take a hammering.  whats even more intereresting is that the ABL program just got a free injection of capability.
 
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AMTP10F       9/28/2007 6:32:25 AM
If this thing works out like the way it is presented, it will radically change warfare. No doubt about it.
 
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Volkodav       9/28/2007 7:12:53 AM
Drop another MT30 or two into the hull or even up higher and you would have pleanty of juice.  Super capacitors .... is this starting to sound like Star Trek?
 
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Herald1234    More like Babylon 5   9/28/2007 7:19:02 AM
Starfleet Command were buffoons. Earth Force was a much better outfit.
 
Seriously though this topic [fiber optic bundled lasers] skirts close to some stuff that both of us are doing that is more than just interesting.
 
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Volkodav       9/28/2007 7:23:16 AM
Ah yes the "Plucked Chicken Fleet" whoops I mean "White Star Fleet".
 
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Herald1234       9/28/2007 8:16:24 AM

Ah yes the "Plucked Chicken Fleet" whoops I mean "White Star Fleet".


Plucked Chickens hell. I don't mean those Anla Shok weenies.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rifts-B5-Ships/Earth_Warlock.jpg" width=640 border=0>
I said EARTH FORCE.
 
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Kevin Pork       9/29/2007 12:53:00 AM

If this thing works out like the way it is presented, it will radically change warfare. No doubt about it.


If it works as advertised it could make airpower obsolete - a $200 mil plane, delivering a $50,000 + weapon that can be stopped by something that is cost effective against a mortar, scale it up a tad (or boost the power or slave several together) and it could be knocking down a/c at much higher altitudes.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       9/29/2007 1:37:43 AM
This should have some application on RPG defense for MBTs and troop carriers.  MBTs should be able to use their big engines to generate power for an dual offensive/defensive beam weapon.

I don't think we are "Star Trek" yet, we'd have to know where to draw the line between a phaser and a laser.  I'd suspect a phaser would be like a laser but all of the photons would have the same "spin".

Helicopter beam weapons shouldn't be too far behind either.

 
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