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Subject: Military Decorations in Oz
bigfella    7/26/2006 4:34:14 AM
The recent sale of a WW1 VC got me thinking about military honours.

Do we still award VCs, which were basically a British decoration? I know we did as late as Vietnam. Have we awarded one since then?

If we have replaced the VC, what with?

Just curious.
 
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scraw    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/26/2006 4:45:04 AM
Replaced with the Australian VC. The Victoria Cross for Australia was established on 15 Jan 1991 as the highest Australian operational gallantry award. It supersedes the Victoria Cross instituted by Queen Victoria in 1856 but is physically identical and carries the same award criteria. No awards have yet been gazetted. From digger history.
 
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bigfella    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/26/2006 4:57:53 AM
Thanks Scraw.
 
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southern cross    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/26/2006 5:13:17 AM
In that Aussie VC still going to come from Crimean war gun metal?
 
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fall out    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/28/2006 1:44:36 AM
So it hasn't really changed; just re-badged then...? Pity, something more Australian would be better rather than something completely British would be better for Australia. (Come on SC, say something).
 
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DropBear    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/28/2006 3:55:32 AM
Pity, something more Australian would be better rather than something completely British would be better for Australia. Is there supposed to be a comma or fullstop in that sentence somewhere? I know what you mean FO, however, if one was feeling mischievous one could read the last part as meaning a medal that was "completely British would be better for Australia". ;) Anyway, what does it matter to a Republican like you where the gong for ultimate valour originates? it isn't the nationality so much as the recognition. Unit citations from the South Vietnamese Gov were just as nice as getting a mention in dispatches or the like from your own crowd (not that these are the same, mind you).
 
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fall out    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/28/2006 10:05:57 AM
"Anyway, what does it matter to a Republican like you where the gong for ultimate valour originates? it isn't the nationality so much as the recognition. Unit citations from the South Vietnamese Gov were just as nice as getting a mention in dispatches or the like from your own crowd (not that these are the same, mind you)." It is good that otehr nations afford worthwhile foreign soldiers awards but the point still stands, we have nothing but a carbon copy of a British award, something uniquely Australian, something originally Australian, something for Australians and those who served with Australians should be suffice!! Just one of still many steps we need to take to completely, and I mean 100% completely, breakaway from our one sided, biased history and embellish all that is Australian now!! "Is there supposed to be a comma or fullstop in that sentence somewhere?" Guess you've never made a spelling or grammer mistake on SP or anywhere for that matter then? Sometimes I cant spend that much time on here, just like now as ive had just a few strong (6.5%) froffies (ie about 6) and am about to go to bed and drink plenty more tommorrow!!! ;) Good afternoon, good evening and good night! :)
 
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DropBear    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/28/2006 10:37:20 AM
Too busy getting drunk as usual I see.
 
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southern cross    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/29/2006 6:33:21 AM
Jesus. all I will say is FO is really sounding like an extremist, and frankly it's a little scary. Anyway, I don't see how a new medal would mean anywhere near as much. It is the VC. I'll leave it at that.
 
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fall out    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/30/2006 11:43:11 PM
"Jesus. all I will say is FO is really sounding like an extremist, and frankly it's a little scary." HAHAHAHAHAH!! Boo! hahahaha ;) "I'll leave it at that." Cool. :)
 
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Aussie Digger    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/31/2006 12:52:45 AM
No "new" Australian medal will mean as much as a VC does, simply because it doesn't have the history behind it. US medals, even the Medal of Honour can't match it for historical significance in my opinion and as such don't "mean as much", despite the obvious valour and courage needed to "win" one. The idea that we should stop awarding a medal for courage and honour because it "relates to England" is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Even IF we become a Republic, should we not respect and acknowledge our historical ties ie: England, however much it might annoy you personally FO? I for one would be ashamed to see us get rid of the VC as our highest valour award. Such a decision would disrespect the efforts and sacrifices of our previous recipients and I for one would never support it. Why stop there though? Maybe we could stop remembering ANZAC Day too and start celebrating "Republic Day" just because of the historical association with England!!!
 
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fall out    RE:Military Decorations in Oz   7/31/2006 2:26:58 AM
"Why stop there though? Maybe we could stop remembering ANZAC Day too and start celebrating "Republic Day" just because of the historical association with England!!!" Sums up your post well mate, takes something out of context and replace it with something completely irrelevant and exaggerated!
 
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Aussie Digger    RE:FO   7/31/2006 2:57:06 AM
Maybe you should try reading it again then. 3/4's of it talks about my feelings on the VC, which correct me if I'm wrong is what this thread is all about isn't it? Your argument seems to be that we should replace the VC, simply because it relates directly to England. Well, I was merely proposing something else that relates directly to England be replaced as well. I thought YOU of all people would agree with me there.
 
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southern cross    RE:FO   7/31/2006 5:26:39 AM
FO, you still seem to be writing in English? Will you follow the cricket this season?
 
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fall out    RE:FO   7/31/2006 8:33:23 AM
"FO, you still seem to be writing in English?" Huh?... "Will you follow the cricket this season?" Are you being sarcastic or...? If not then hell yeah, will be going to the boxing day test (MCC member) or working there (serving beer)... Being from Mildura I much prefer summer to winter...
 
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southern cross    RE:FO   8/1/2006 2:22:59 AM
Well Cricket is played in Australia as a direct result of our English colonial past. And english is the main language here for that same reason, oddly enough I know. Yes there was a hint of sarcasm there, but it worked to test just how well you thought out and/or meant the following statement... "Just one of still many steps we need to take to completely, and I mean 100% completely, breakaway from our one sided, biased history and embellish all that is Australian now!!" Completely to me means - stop communicating in the language - stop playing the sports, most natably cricket - remove and replace what is a very fine legal system - totally alter what is an excellent political system (whether under a GG/Monarchy or a President) - etc I could go on but I think I've made my point, for now.
 
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