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Subject: Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore
AMTP10E    1/9/2006 5:24:40 AM
JANE'S NAVY INTERNATIONAL - JANUARY 01, 2006 Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore Michal Zdobinsky The Luch state design bureau in Ukraine is developing a 2.75-inch 'smart' rocket for Singapore, writes Michal Zdobinsky. It will negotiate the transfer of technology and manufacturing rights for the homing and steering module to Singapore, allowing local companies to manufacture the module and convert existing 2.75-inch unguided rockets that can be used to arm Singapore's helicopters. The upgrade uses technology derived from a Ukrainian programme to develop a guidance and control module to convert the 80 mm AP-8 unguided air-to-surface rocket into a 'smart' AP-8L guided round. The AP-8 is an improved Ukrainian derivative of the Russian S-8 unguided rocket. The Ukrainian programme to develop the AP-8L was initiated by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence, and work started at Luch at the end of 2004. The modified missile has a new front section, containing a laser seeker and a steering unit with two flip-out aerodynamic control surfaces. It retains the rocket motor of the standard AP-8 rocket. The laser seeker of the AP-8L is adapted from an existing weapon, JMR was told, but this weapon was not identified. Installation of the new front section increases the length of the rocket from the original 1,586 mm to a total of 1,725 mm. To partially compensate for the new hardware, the warhead was trimmed in weight from 4.7 kg to 4.3 kg. Despite this measure, the AP-8L weighs 14.7 kg, 2 kg more than the unguided rocket. Like the AP-8, the AP-8L can carry either a high-explosive (HE) or a shaped-charge (HEAT) warhead. Although the latter is lighter than the original pattern carried by the unguided rocket, the performance of the shaped charge was enhanced to preserve its armour-piercing capability, matching the older warhead's ability to penetrate 400 mm of homogenous steel armour. AP-8L rounds can be launched from the standard 20-tube B-8M-1 rocket pods, or from the similar B-8V-20A pods intended for helicopter use. They can be carried by aircraft such as the Su-17, Su-22, Su-25 or the MiG-27K, which carry the Klyon-PS laser rangefinder/designator. Other types of aircraft or helicopters would have to be fitted with suitable laser target designators. According to the Luch design bureau, all the main components of the AP-8L are tested and proven, but at the IDEF 2005 defence show held in Ankara, Turkey, in September 2005, the bureau indicated that live firing tests of the complete missile had yet to begin. Until these have been conducted, neither the declared effective range of the new weapon, given as 1,200-5,000 m, nor the claimed 70-80 per cent hit probability against a tank or armoured personnel carrier target can be fully proven. In parallel with the AP-8L programme, Luch is working on the upgrade scheme for the 2.75-inch rocket, a project being financed by Singapore. According to the deputy director general of the Luch design bureau, Georgiy S Petrov, Singapore would be able to use virtually any laser designator, with only a minor modification to the radiating frequency being required to match the new weapon. Petrov believes that the development and testing of the guided 2.75-inch rocket will be completed by the end of 2006.
 
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doggtag    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore   1/9/2006 9:56:50 AM
Yet again someone trumps US efforts! APKWS/APKWS II has been in development for how long and how many million$, yet is still not in production, nor even nearly ready for it! I'm surprised those NATO countries that use the 80mm SURA series rockets have never considered a guided variant (UK Royal Army Lynx helos have used them), or even those countries that use aircraft rockets up to 5" or so. Knowing former Soviet ingenuity, I wonder how long before they start mounting pods of these guided rockets on AFVs...a 4.3kg warhead (that's 9&1/2 pounds) is bigger than most anything an RPG-7 fires: it could be very useful against any number of AFVs, especially with that 400mm (almost 16 inches) penetration. Seeing as this is a Ukranian development, what about 122mm guided Katyusha rockets? The more seeker head technologies and guidance & control mechanisms shrink, the more antiquated systems that opens up to make them much more effective weapons. Here's another thought: depending on RPG model, some warheads are as much as 105mm in diameter. Could we see a PGM RPG round within the next 5-10 years? Russian/Ukranian weapons developers have had various 100mm laser-guided tank gun shells in service for several years now, so it's no surprise to me they've gotten it down to 7cm capability before the supposedly superior technological prowess of the mighty US.
 
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Lawman    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore   1/9/2006 10:02:34 AM
How about a guided 5in Zuni? It would pack a massive punch, and could be carried in large numbers - a Rhino could easily pack 16 of these, each of which can carry a 20kg (~45lb) warhead! Now that would be impressive!
 
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shawn    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore   1/9/2006 10:23:21 AM
Interesting... But the only airframes that carry 70mm rockets in the Singapore inventory are AH-64D Apaches. Perhaps they'd be used to delivery precesion strike against targets that a Hellifire II would be overkill.
 
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doggtag    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore   1/9/2006 11:18:32 AM
Singapore has Longbow Apaches? (must've missed that one...) My guess would be it's been designed (the Ukie smart rocket) to be a cheap PGM, much like the still-in-the-labs APKWS systems. The weight of warhead suggests it could be very useful for a lot of targets. And yes, even the 20-odd pounds in the Hellfire has been put under scrutiny as overkill in a number of "downtown" engagement scenarios. I don't think some people realize just how powerful 20 pounds of explosives really is. For instances when friendlies and civvies are danger close, using a 9 pound warhead vs a 20 pound would be like using 105mm artillery instead of 155mm. And, if a guided rocket can be assembled cheaper than a Hellfire-type AGM, then there is the economy of training: more ordnance can be thrown downrange during training ops and pilot proficiency, without breaking the piggy bank. As for a guided 5" Zuni: couple decades ago, the USN developed a laser-seeking 5" naval round (defunct "Deadeye" program), and it had, depending where you find your data, a 30 pound warhead. Sounds effective enough to me. And an aircraft-launched rocket wouldn't be subjected to the launch stresses of a gun-fired PGM. I think Sweden used a big 130mm rocket (5.1inch) from Viggens for a while. But without an effective accuracy, rockets are more wasteful than useful: even if they have a pretty effect, it's no good if it didn't hit the target. Making such small seekerhead technologies could also turn many small 20-50 pound practice bombs into very compact (think Viper Strike), low collateral damage PGMs that could be perfectly suited for deployment from trainer aircraft and used to take out single civilian vehicles in residential areas without trashing half the neighborhood. Think of it as a mini-me SDB! Of course, here we're also getting into the realm of micro-UAVs, and a TV/EO-guided mini PGM (like a small remote controlled airplane) would probably get you better up-to-the-last-second precision than a laser seeker painted by a distant designator. Even a couple kilos of C4 can wreak havoc on a civilian vehicle. The only problem being is, securing the command datalink from countermeasures...but there, your adversary has to know you've deployed the weapon in the area, and he has to have the assets on hand in that vicinity to interrupt the datalink. For a 20-45 second flight time, that's not much time to react and counter it. I look at all the bigger my handheld videocam is, and I don't see why the same small camera couldn't now be incorporated into a small PGM not much bigger than a Pringles potato chip can, with a warhead at least equal to hand grenades, a 60mm mortar shell, or those cluster bomblets used in MLRS rockets and WCMD bombs. Actually, that's the general goal of the US DARPA/BAe ODAM: an optically-guided/laser seeker 60mm mortar shell...although it's no where near even close to being fielded. link
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore - dogtag   1/9/2006 2:32:33 PM
"Russian/Ukranian weapons developers have had various 100mm laser-guided tank gun shells in service for several years now, so it's no surprise to me they've gotten it down to 7cm capability before the supposedly superior technological prowess of the mighty US." They don't seem to have as many problems with defense execs trying to milk the DoD for cash and turning out crap products to soldiers.
 
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doggtag    RE:Ukraine develops 'smart' rockets for Singapore - dogtag   1/9/2006 2:46:45 PM
I'll second that!
 
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