Black Africa's problems

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John "Sir" Tristram 7/25/2001 7:13:47 AM

You sir, are a "douche bag". Where is your evidence? The reasons for Africa's problems are many and various, but just as they can't all be blamed on the West, they are assuredly not due to everyone being an idiot. The West African immigrant population in the UK is the single most highly educated racial group in the UK. You are just looking to rationalise your prejudices and that is why you are a fool.

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none of your bussness RE:Black Africa's problems 6/12/2002 12:16:44 PM

who the hell is this guy and what is he saying is he crazy i think that people like him are the reson why this world is so sick

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tommy atkins RE:Black Africa's problems 8/4/2002 11:29:29 AM

Why Lordy Masser Tristram! Dun beat me wi' that ol' hickory swich. I'se is only a poor ignorant slave. Professor UmBongo,Winner of "Brain of Africa 2002" Idiot.

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ghettovet RE:Black Africa's problems 6/11/2003 10:30:05 AM

Last time i checked, every person on the face of the earth is from "black africa". The color of ones skin is only related the the body's production of Vitamin D.. AFRICANS who moved to europe over the millenia, have devoloped lighter skin to aid in the production of Vit. D. Any one who still believes that one color person is somehow, superior, to another has a serious problem with hatred and a total lack of historical and medical knowledge. If we want to throw stones then we would say that the " so called whites" are also historically savages. Look at the behavior of these "so called white people" A cursory look at this group would leave one to believe that they are prone to violence, taking peoples land, wars, and slavery to name a few. I have only been on this site for a few months, but this has to be the dumbest most hateful message i have ever read. I can not believe that they would even post it. I thank you all for what i have learned from you, and i think that the average person on SP is WAY too smart to buy into this. I never met a racist, who does not claim to have known someone who was "jumped" by a bunch of black guys. The other one i like is the " they hired a black guy instead of me" line. Any of this happen to you SIR?? Love for all Ghettovet

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Shaka of Carthage RE:Black Africa's problems ... ghettovet 6/14/2003 1:38:55 PM

Somethings change, but very slowly. If you have to explain to someone why black, brown, white, yellow, red, etc are all the same, why bother? Bias, be it racial or gender, has so many levels to it that sometimes its hard to recognize it. I think the young guys call this "trolling" or something like that. I think it means someone posts some stupid a** message just to get a response. Its just alot simpler to not respond.

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ChrisWI RE:Black Africa's problems ... ghettovet 6/15/2003 7:56:16 AM

The problem with Africa is that they choose independance over economic stability when they were a colony

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Thomas RE:Black Africa's problems 6/16/2003 5:35:21 AM

I think the problem is that the social organisation of Africa has been successfull in as far as it has survived about a million years (ballpark figure). In comparison to that, civilisation - and this includes some blokes we don't want to compare us to - is a newfangled idea of say 6.000 years.

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Vulture RE:Black Africa's problems -the troll has left SP 6/16/2003 9:18:03 AM

Sir Tristam was an ignorant racist who left before the board reuired registration. As for your million years comment, that is only valid if you equate it to primate troop interaction as "social organization" No Africa countries self destruct because the people are too naive. Western Cynicism has proven it value where African supersitition and gullibility has left a mess.

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Shaka of Carthage RE:Black Africa's problems 6/16/2003 9:34:19 AM

The problem is not that difficult. Artifical nations. Same problem the Middle East has. The nations of Africa are not real. The boundaries were drawn not taking into consideration local tribes. And before we all go get to the "primitive" issue, don't forget that Nations, require nationalism, which requires the local residents becoming a nation resident first, before they are anything else. The EU is a modern day example. When you think of yourself as a European, not a German or Frenchmen or Italian, etc, then the EU will be a nation. Look at the generations it took before ... I was getting ready to use Scotland and Wales as an example. But I think its a bad one, cause those were seperate nations. My knowledge of Europe is not strong enough unless you want to talk Rome and Gauls and Germans, etc... which is too far back to be relevant. Hopefully you get the point. Back to Africa. The "nations" that are having problems are simply different "tribal" groups setlling thier differences using military means. Ahhh... think of Yugo and its breakup. No different. But Africa has it much worse. You have the different tribes, then the different religions (Islam, Christanity and Tribalism), then the different economic interests, etc. And then you have the size. Look at a map. What Africa needs is about 30 Saddams' (as in strongman) and Gandi's. And time.

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Thomas RE:Black Africa's problems Shaka 6/20/2003 7:57:03 AM

I agree

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Vulture RE:Black Africa's problems- Nope not enough Shake 6/20/2003 8:40:15 AM

How does that explain Liberia which pretty much set it's own borders? And don't tell me a conquered created country can not prosper. India, Belgium,Austria and others have done quite well despite the artificial (non tribal and or geographic boundaries). Sorry if it just a tribe to create a country, then the people have still not got a "worldview" of what a country is. Same for creating a single religon country. One has to wonder about Angola, given its formerly high eduaction rate and length of establised civilization at the country level.

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Shaka of Carthage RE:Nope not enough ... Vulture 6/20/2003 9:40:58 AM

Establishment of a "national" identy is just one of the first steps. There are quite a few more to go. I think Liberias problem is good old corruption. But I don't know the specifics. All your other examples have thier own internal problems that had to be worked out. In some cases, those problems are still be worked on today.

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JimA RE:Black Africa's problems 6/23/2003 12:48:46 PM

Having spent a number of years as a soldier with the UN in the Middle East on thing always struck me, this is the place where civilisation was born! Yet though these people can be the friendliest of folks, do something wrong on them and you are dead. I used to describe them once home as ancient man with cars. The african story is similiar, the birth place of modern man, yet never developed beyond the hunter and gatherer stage. With a lack of education and superstition rife the man who holds the biggest stick is always going to be right and if he shouts loud enough, believed. But who have taught these people this trick? The good old white man. The white man is no saint, look at WWII, Kosovo, even the American Indian. We are all the same animal.

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