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Subject: Obama will be a one term president.
SYSOP    11/11/2008 7:39:57 PM
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ker       6/28/2009 7:46:47 PM
The hueny to trap ratio has never been so sweet.  No one needs to say, "from now on you pay."  No one demands the keys to stay quiet.  Just sprinkle secondary sex cariteristics where the Republicans are and sit back to profit from the magic.
 
Some of the religious right types have policys where no member of their staff can travle alone.  They must have their wife or accountablility partner travil with them.  They have the kind of ministers who call you and demand to know what your whatching in the hotel room.  They learned hard lessons in the past. 
 
But it's all just happenstance.  No vengfull with the last name Clinton has any power in Argentina.  None at all.
 
 
Funny thing is that it's like cheating on test at schools.  The people who do it all the time and really have no qualms about it get caught much less than the doubleminded who feel guilty but do it just once.
 
Shot term this keeps GOP fluid.  Middle term we don't know what this dose. 
 
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ker    Slight case of over bombardment IIX   7/6/2009 5:47:46 PM
"The government fears that eventually these Internet inspired mobs will go after corrupt officials and police. "
 
How do you say, "Bastille Day" in Chinese?
 
But this is an O thread so I'll go back to comment from the head of the royal failmy of Chicago.
 
"The police are not here create disorder.  The police are here to maintain disorder."
 
Chicago Public Transit Authority
 
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ker    Pop Music   7/8/2009 6:02:16 PM
Way back in this thread I make a conection between Michel Obama and Sir Mix Alot.  I wanted to get back to that and it didn't happen.  Now as we have a press event over the death of Michel Jackson I have an in.
 
Talk about Jackson that is useful will place him with in the story of American race relations.  The big question was how dose a black faimly sell music to a mass audance including whites.  Remember that as C. S. Lewis says the devil sends us evils in pairs of oposites so that fleeing from one we run willingly into the arms of the other.  American white supremists information campains portrayed blacks as alternativly monsters or permanet children.  A ten year old white calling a 50 year old black boy.  When Jackson Five was launching they needed to navigate that national climet.  The solution was to center the groups apeal around a boy Sirley Temple.  http://www.shirleytemple.com/...  It worked.  What kind of black are whites willilng to bring into their home?  A five year old with a prepubesent crush. 
 
Jacksons music continued with the largly asexual romatic theams.  Then he added the peace maker theam (Ebeny and Ivory, Beat It) which was also none threatoning to whites.  Other songs were about how hard it was to be Jackson and how unfairly he was treated by people who did not understand his inocence.  He was victom. 
 
The Jackson modle had personal drawbacks. 
 
Prince who also started younger than most had another way of navegating the difficultys of being a black selling music to blacks and whites.  He was metrosexual before we knew what metrosexual was.  I like to think that if Prince could have gotten Paul McCartny and Eddy VanHalen to help on an albam it would have out sold Thriller.  Prince predicted Gangster Rap with his Black album but delayed it release until well after others had taken the lead so that he wouldn't take the rap for creating the ganster edge.  The use of the arketype of black man as monster was used effectivly to by white music executives to sell units to white kids in the burbs. 
 
Comparitivly Sir Mix Alot was a smaller act but he wrestaled with the sae kinds of questions.  How dose a black man have a life and a sex life in a meadia culture and culture run buy and for whites.  Sir was more confrontational saying this is it. How do you like me now.  Still he made alliance with chubby white girls.  It's an art.  http://www.myspace.com/thereal...
 
Now we don't live their any more.  Opra, Beyancay, Jordan, FUBU and Jay-Z is honored at the U.N.
 
So blacks selling units or political ideas to whites have more manover room than they did.  O can rise higher than Sharpton and some of that advantage has to do with playing the proffesor when whites are looking.  He is ever so slightly metrosexual.
 
In the movie Guess Whos comming to Dinner the black man is asked about what life his kids might have if he marries a white woman.  He says that his soon to be wife thinks that all their kids will be President of the united states of America.  I think that conversation happened in Hawaii.  Art forshadows life.
 
It isn't fair that O should need to hold it down for the whole black race.  It also isn't fair that critics of O's critics should claim that if O is derailed no black man will ever work in this town again.  The nation becomes healthyer as we can see past the hype and into the character of the man. 
 
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ker    Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man   7/9/2009 5:58:12 PM
 
MJ as cross cultural / bi cultural peace maker plays large in his sales.  I know he had tallent and dicipline in his craft.  Remember that there is tons of tallent and dicipline at Julliards that never sees public attention.  Artists need tallent some times (Sex Pistals not so much) but to make a impact they must wrestel with a major cultural conflict in a way that makes people, you and me, feel engaged with them. 
 
In the song Beat It jackson confronts violance with a message of transformation.  At first he is telling some boy, "Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man", to run away and not fight.  Then in the video which was the primary form of the message.  MJ shows up as the fight between the gangs neather as a boy or as "A Macho Man." He is a Peter Pan man/boy figure. Never Land Raunch? He dosn't run or fight.  He dances a spellbinding dance which causes the killers to trough down their swich blades and compeat as dancers.  Then they dance together following MJ.  Peace through unilateral disarmerment and brake dancing.  Notice that the special MJ can bring peace but commen people should flee. 
 
Do you think you have heared this plan before.  It's the O/Clinton Russa stratagey.  We will settle the Ucrain and Gorga conflicts with pacivaty and boy bands.  Reset it.  Reset it.
 
[1st Verse]
They Told Him Don't You Ever Come Around Here
Don't Wanna See Your Face, You Better Disappear
The Fire's In Their Eyes And Their Words Are Really Clear
So Beat It, Just Beat It

[2nd Verse]
You Better Run, You Better Do What You Can
Don't Wanna See No Blood, Don't Be A Macho Man
You Wanna Be Tough, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad

[Chorus]
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Show them How Funky and Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It

[3rd Verse]
They're Out To Get You, Better Leave While You Can
Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man
You Wanna Stay Alive, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, Just Beat It

[4th Verse]
You Have To Show Them That You're Really Not Scared
You're Playin' With Your Life, This Ain't No Truth Or Dare
They'll Kick You, and Then They Beat You,
Then They'll Tell You It's Fair
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad        http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyri...
 
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ker    drag coefficient   7/14/2009 6:00:20 PM
The education of Soto continues.  Fedelity to the law is her philosopy.  She will remember that as she serves because she wants to creat political space for O to send her sisters and brothers on the court.  Polotics in the court room will continue.  She is getting a listen to the fault lines.  She wants to move the lines but knows not to say that in public.  She not only whacthes the polls but knows that her actions on the court and as an educator / speeker will move polls.  If she preforms in ways that make GOP critics look like paranoid chumps she can raise O's stock.  If she writes oppinions that confirm GOP concerns she can cost Dems votes.  The perpetual campain will continue once she is confirmed so the posing will continue as well.  Well i assume that she is sell counsiously ajusting her positions to please selected audauances.  
In boats you can reduce your drag in the watter by moving faster causing the boat to skip over the watter.  O polls show that he isn't skipping over the political watter like he used to. 
 
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ker    "White Men Can't Judge"    7/15/2009 7:39:21 PM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/...  The daily show is giving Soto about her due when they say,
 
"White Men Can't Judge"                        I love Johns foam were #1 finger.
 
She is inventing new philosopy for her self faster than activist judges can invent new meaning for the constitution.
 
"If you said Basitle day get the [    ] out."
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"I believe in civility to a point. If another person tells me 70% approval ratings mean not having to say your sorry and that I'm so "the old politics" I might remember some of that, Dan Rather, Scott Ritter, Harry Reed civility." Me last year.
 
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ker       7/21/2009 5:55:10 PM
O says that if you like your doctor, insurance, drug or procegure you can keep it until the snd term.
 
Congress is working through vapor bills wile it looks for the right gimic.  How many swing distric Dems are going to walk the plank to make O look competant?  His groupy number is still ok but his aproval numbers on healthcare in those districts w/ freshman Dems arn't going to make him helpful.  People are planning their next election and that means making predictions on the political climate they will running in.  O people are giving out their own spin\predictions to congresional staffers.
 
What do you tell the folk who have been working for years to get a Dem in their district and they get it and then find out that the party had larger goals than holding your district.  It's a lot easyer to tell the congress man that there is a nice job waiting at GE if they vote w/ O.
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O says August date is because the congress can't get anything done w/o dead line.  He needs a life line not a dead line.  In August the congress goes home to talk to the people.  This dose two bad things.  First the members see how intence voters resistance is.  Second they see just what the suporters of the none bill / none plan expect to get when it passes. 
 
Also in August O is to restate his buget and deficiat predictions.  The voters will not be amused or in mood for hyper spending. 
 
Reed, "this bill is not going to cost Americans moeny."
 
Was talk of braking the bill up and passing the hard parts in buget reconcilation mode with 218 and 51 votes before passing the easy parts with a "historic" and "bypartison" majority.  But by then there will be far to much blood and sausauge on the floor for that kind of fancy dance step. 
 
Pelosi wants to let the Senot vote first.
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The beatings will continue until moral improves.
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Soto is the Dora the Explora of the Supream Court.  She has a three objective map.  First get top grades job reports.  Second flirt with the activist movement left so that she becomes the pick for some future Dem Prez. It's like running in a party primary and running to the left. She had a stump speach. Third, run to the center once you are nominated like it was a general election.  Denie all the things you said to get the nomination so that when you get confirmed people still think of you as on of us. 
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Pelosi's through line on intel is the CIA lies.  Her old friend at the head of the CIA finds evence that the CIA lies and discredits CHeny and Hadden. 
 
 
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ker       7/22/2009 5:59:18 PM
But wait.  The lie Peneta accuses Cheny/Hadden of is that they didn't tell congress about an option they decided not to take.  "Hey, let me take your time to tell you about what we have decided we don't want to do."  I don't think so.  And what was so shocking?  Wile every one with two IQ points to rub together knew we were preying on AQ with hellfire missles so one explored the posibility of using rifles or pointy sticks to do the same thing.  The result of the exploration was the conclusion we would have logistic and extrication problems.  Supluing and evacuating people from AQ stoming grounds will be hard.  If we expand the program to game changing propotions the enemy will get posesion of living and dead oporators.  Suiside tree snipers (Japan WWII) are not our style even if they are in moantains w/o trees.  CIA didn't bother to remind congress of that.
 
Dosn't matter all Pelosi needed was cover with people who don't read the jump pages in their news papers.  The head line is CIA lies and the refutation never gets read by people who don't already know thats well ...  beside the point.
 
Pelosies next breathless press confrence will center around her discovery that the army shoots guns...at people!  Peneta will try to clean that one up to after enough time has pased to make it look like he just might have cleaner motives.
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Maliki to go to Arlington.  O should tag along. 
 
O, "They [US militairy]  have compleated every mission they have been given."  Is the difference between W and O the difference between "accompleashed" and "compleated?"  No, O said it with a flate expresion and buried it way under the talk of the Iraq mission being temporairy.  W said it was temporairy too.  Maliki says, America still under "joint oblogation to face any threat" against Iraq. 
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Stim bill riped O up in several ways.  It used up all the room on the national credit card he needed for national health, energy and education.  It deflated his ora of infalability.  It gave Jon Kyl a big oportunity to say, I told you it wouldn't creat jobs.  I told you it wouldn't get spent fast enugh to justife all this false urgancy and drama.  I told you there would be waiste.  I told you we needed the moeny for other things.  Team O responce was if you don't like the moeny we can just stop sending it to your state.  AZ, Gov. Jan Brewer says get off Kyl's back.  The truth lurking inside this tempest in a tea pot is that O's people think they can buy political submision with goverment spending.
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O says that if you like your doctor, insurance, drug or procegure you can keep it until the 2nd term...unless I lose this vote!
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I was going to write a bigger bit about Soto as Dora the Explora but self censored.  It involved monkey jokes and I called Benny the Bull a cracker retard.  I will engage in much self critisim for that. Very nasty stuff.
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Drill CA Drill.   Can we banrupt FL next?  Please?
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Fool me once....
 
Health slow down.
 
Generational theaft is strong charge.  The GOP are exploting O over promising to force him to make a dicision about his whole career.  Tonight O comites his reserves.  We talked about front loaded primaries and this is a very front loaded presedency.  When the cancled the press breifing to not draw atention to what was happening on the hill people started paying attention.
 
Will O use reserves to drive forward the attack or cover the retreat.  Can he thread the needle will riding the rollercoster and find a move that dose both? 
 
Is he going to be out of touch with political reality or timed?  Weakness gets punished in his town. 
 
We pay more and get less than than anyone.  The real solutions will come from some place other than goverment.  (Atomated record keeping could cout errors and free massive amounts of health workers time for patient care.)  Forget that this is all about O now. 
 
O bet huge on nation Health and it's very much in play.  Even if he wins confedence is eroded by the chancy nature of the contest.
 
No one wants any bill that is still posible.  The one hope is that the leftys can force something in with vote trading and arm braking.&
 
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ker    "Doctor Feel Good"   7/23/2009 5:59:00 PM
The crystal candelear were far more beutifule than I ever expected.  And his suit was amazing.  I remember now why I am supost to love him.
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It's all about me and now that he talked about me on TV I like him.  He did talk about me.  I know he did.  I'm the Republican disinformation O warned you about.  Some people will say that that line was a swipe at Dick Morris http://www.dickmorris.com/blog... for saying that O is using national health too incentivise ilegals to enter the country and vote illigaly for Dems.  And a book full of other insights like that.  But I know it's all about me. 
 
Now if O and misses Edwards don't like what the call Republican lies they should just keep up the adhominam attacks.  Every thing any Republican says about plan is a lie is just the kind of polarisation that will sell Dicks books.
 
If they were to have the curage of their convictions and present their own ideas in a clear and timely way Dick would be out of luck.  We might even get a good bill. 
 
If as Edwards wife says any time a Republican mentions Cannada, France or Briton they are lieing then what dose she think og Jacob Weisberg?  http://www.slate.com/id/222303...  Weisberg, no GOP pawn, talks about comparative healthcare and it dosn't feel like he's fibbing.
 
"Aside from these specific issues, there's been a pervasive feeling in many progressive circles that Obama is too cautious, too "pragmatic," too subservient to Democratic "centrists," too worried about bipartisanship, too interested in outreach to people who will never support him, and too unwilling to utilize the bully pulpit to articulate and defend progressive principles."
 
These people who want more bully and less pulpit from O are continuing to be disapointed.  Last night was not what they wanted.  He didn't bow to the blue dogs but he didn't bite back eather.  In fact O big move was to lay other news storys (home ownership wile black, O thinks the Secret Service might shoot him, GOP want to distroy O, stuff like that.) over the story of the blue dogs so he can get at them in private.  They are more controlable whern they don't think people are whatching.
 
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He is against waiste.  What courage.  He also wants to keep goverment out of your health care wile limeting your out of pocket payments and protecting your choice of health services.  He will increase demand for health services by covering more (it used to be all) people and lower cost.  He must have an army of Cuban doctors in his pocket who want to work real cheap.  I forgot we are beyond the limeted ecconomics of supply and demand.  The magic astrics called "waist fraud and abuse" will pay for it.  Worked so well for Reagan.  Profit is the problem.  The truble is that when people work for profit there is some chance you can predict what they are doing.  When they stop working for profit they are working for something else like a political agenda.  Political agendas are a lot more expencive tha profits.  Just look at what Franks did to hte banking industry.
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This program is not yet formed so talk about it is all conjecture.  What happened to writing the bill and then putting it on the web and C-Span and then talking about it when we know what it is.  It's all back wards.  We hear about how we most be fore a bill to be anounced latter or we are for nothing.  I'm so over come with guilt that I am going to go use my Boy Scout training on homeless people w/o out insurance.  Do my part you know.
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Real peoples lives are at stake here and I am willing to take that seriously.  Well as seriously as O is willing to take it.  If he will demenstrate in a mesurable way that this health bill is not a trojan horse that is going to include libral Christmas lists that leap into the bill five mients before the vote or even worse in confrance committee ... then ... I will turn my thinking towards real solutions.  Don't hold your breath.  Speed Reading Kills. 
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What if O passed up the political points he scored by accusing the GOP of only caring about the political points they scored on him?   ???   What if he
 
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ker       7/24/2009 5:57:36 PM
Very distracted to day. What is this thread about?
 
One of the problems of peace is it make you adopt habits that work in peace but leave you open to a sucker punch.  Then consiter that the sucker puncher can put down the gun and play info warfare.  An ambush with out a crime can give the greates victory.  Urban warefare with out the warfare.  The tail can wag the dog and all it needs is a provokable person who can be assoseated with the target.  But a little voice tells me that the dog (yellow dog/yellow press) is quite happy about the wagging it's getting.
 
What was I talking about?
 
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