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Subject: Turk Assassination of Hrant Dink
VelocityVector    1/19/2007 11:31:46 AM
One more voice silenced . . . Turkish-Armenian writer shot dead A well-known Turkish-Armenian editor convicted of insulting Turkish identity has been shot dead in Istanbul. Hrant Dink, editor of newspaper Agos, was shot three times by an unknown gunman outside his offices. Dink was given a six-month suspended sentence in October 2005 after writing about the Armenian "genocide" of 1915. Turkey's NTV television said police were searching for a teenager wearing a white hat and a denim jacket in connection with the murder. The channel showed pictures of a white sheet covering the journalist's body in front of the newspaper building's entrance. Dink, 53, had received threats from nationalists who viewed him as a traitor, the Associated Press news agency reported. He was one of Turkey's most prominent Armenian voices. He once gave an interview with the Associated Press in which he cried while describing the hatred some Turks had for him, saying he could not stay in a country where he was unwanted. Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, in what many Armenians say was a systematic massacre at the hands of the Ottoman Turks. Turkey denies any genocide, saying the deaths were a part of World War I. Turkey and neighbouring Armenia still have no official relations. Story from BBC NEWS: link Published: 2007/01/19 15:03:59 GMT © BBC MMVII v^2
 
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Gelin       5/23/2007 4:40:56 AM
Kane you seem to acknoledge your country's history. Elaborating on what you wrote, we know that the first Osmanlis that settled in Asia Minor where not more than a few thousand. How can today's Turks be 70,000,000? Forced Converts (christian children taken by force from Christian families from south Balkans and especialy from the area that is now Greece,south Bulgaria,FYROM and Albania) the famous Yeni Cheri or Jannisars plus millions of people that changed religion and become Muslims. Today's Turks are a mixture of Armenians (people like Bulend Echevit), original Turks similar to Mongols (like Deniz Baycal), Arabs (like Tayip Erdogan) and Greeks (like Mesut Gilmaz)...

Well since you do not live in Turkey I can not explain these to you
Turkey is a multicultural and multireligious country
The people living in Turkey calls themselves Turks,just like me.We speak Turkish and we have Turkish cultures
But ethnically we're not Turks.I mean not 100/100 percent
for e.g I'm a mixture of Turk,Rum(Byzantine),Persian and Bulgarian


 
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kane       5/23/2007 1:07:20 PM

Kane you seem to acknoledge your country's history. Elaborating on what you wrote, we know that the first Osmanlis that settled in Asia Minor where not more than a few thousand. How can today's Turks be 70,000,000? Forced Converts (christian children taken by force from Christian families from south Balkans and especialy from the area that is now Greece,south Bulgaria,FYROM and Albania) the famous Yeni Cheri or Jannisars plus millions of people that changed religion and become Muslims. Today's Turks are a mixture of Armenians (people like Bulend Echevit), original Turks similar to Mongols (like Deniz Baycal), Arabs (like Tayip Erdogan) and Greeks (like Mesut Gilmaz)...


Well since you do not live in Turkey I can not explain these to you
Turkey is a multicultural and multireligious country
The people living in Turkey calls themselves Turks,just like me.We speak Turkish and we have Turkish cultures
But ethnically we're not Turks.I mean not 100/100 percent
for e.g I'm a mixture of Turk,Rum(Byzantine),Persian and Bulgarian






There is an important point you're missing.A very important point.Osman Ogullari Beyligi could just few thousands of people.Osmanogullari were from Oguz branch ,from Kayi clan.They were used by Seljuk Turks at the Byzantine border.Seljuks gave them lands.....etc and they grew
At that time there plenty other Turkic beyliks in Anatolia.Turks have began migrating to Caucasia and Anatolia during the great migration.This became faster around 900s-1000s.Millions of Turks migrated to Anatolia at that time.We have our Turkic roots, millions of Turks live in Turkey but most of the people have had  some non-Turks in their family tree
There weren't just Osmanogullari as Turks in Anatolia.Other beyliks, other Turkmen tribes were flowing in to Anatolia
 
Not all the Turks are similar to Mongols actually.Turks also had wide eyes but not like far easterns.Just look for some Tatars and you'll see.Not all Turks looked like Mongols
 
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Azatavrear       1/18/2010 2:14:24 PM
The killer of Hrant Dink was a member of the ultra nationalist "gray Wolf" run by the Ergenekons operating a "deep state". Nothing dirrectly to do with religion, these are the people who run the real Turkey. During the assassins public interview after the killing he was covered by the authorities with the Turkish flag and praised.
 
Minorities in Turkey know the evils there so well. Would you dare to tell Rakel Dink, the widowed spouse of the slain Hrant Dink, that Ergenekon is just an urban legend? Do you have enough courage to say this to the face of these people?
Hrant Dink knew his murderers very well. After retired Gen. Veli Küçük paid a visit to the court in which Hrant Dink was being tried for ?insulting Turkishness,? Hrant said to his friends that this was not a good sign. Soon after he was murdered by a 17-year-old nationalist apparatchik used by the deep state.
 
If you think it was just a diranged 17 year old who did this by himself then you don't know Turkey.
 
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guechevara       3/10/2010 1:21:38 PM
Crowds of ten thousands gathered at Mr. Dink's funeral and shouted they all are Hrant Dink.
 
People of Turkey, we regard him a loss at least as valuable as U&>87;ur Mumcu and Abdi &&04;pekçi, prominent Turkish journalists probably killed by similar minded criminals.

We will not let them get away with it this time. Despite the general opinion of being Islamist, Prime Minister Erdogan is successfully shifting the old corrupt deep state into a truely western democracy.
 
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