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Subject: This is how Islamic radicals see Turkey
Pars    2/27/2006 7:55:59 PM
From an Islamic radical web-site. Learn Turks from our enemies. KEMALISM Mustafa Kemal grew up during the last parts of the Ottoman Empire. By now the Empire had become corrupt and lost many of its Islamic ways. Kemal, was to go on to complete the destruction of the caliphate which was already in decline. Ataturk is regarded by all scholars as a kaffir (non-muslim), and it is probable that he would have been proud of this. He was an agent of the shaytan who took the caliphate destroyed it and resurrected the times of Jahiliyya (ignorance- as existed before Islam). He created a state that was godless, secular, and westernised. Ataturk ended the caliphate in 1924. He then banned the Islamic dress code, arabic script, Islamic titles, Islamic family law, and the Islamic calender. He executed any Islamic scholars and opponents who disagreed with him. This was all done for the cause of so-called 'modernisation'. Ataturk claimed that in his new Turkey people would be treated equally regardless of religion. However, he treated all proper muslims as lesser beings, and this has led to it being suggested that perhaps he was a secret Jew or Christian. What is clear is that anyone who follows his ideology of 'Kemalism' can not call themselves muslim.
 
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Shirrush    RE: To Scratchie   3/10/2006 9:56:30 AM
Israel. Armenia rocks too! I do have, however, a sinking feeling that the next War We Do Not Want link is soon to be discussed on this board. This here neighborhood would be a lot nicer with a peaceful and stable Kavkaz, not to mention a free and post-Islamic Iran.
 
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kane    RE: shirrush   3/10/2006 12:56:00 PM
and i illegally dowload ORPHANED LAND's music but they ROCK besides System of a Down from Armenia rocks a little bit
 
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Scratchie    RE: To Shirrush   3/10/2006 4:32:35 PM
I hope the war doesn't break out between these two nations. But I wonder what Turkiye would do in case that happens. I think we would help Azeris, but i don't know anything further. What do you think? The war should never be an option.
 
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akyıldlız    RE: To Shirrush   3/11/2006 2:12:35 PM
we fight against Azeris in 'Kuruluş Savaşı' and beat them and if war brakes out I THINK we can beat them again unless US or other countries run in to the war because they Azeris dont have storng military. But of course war shouldnt be an option...
 
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Pars    RE:FJV.    3/12/2006 4:43:47 PM
I agree. Turkish politicians are pushing this EU entree too much. Turkish entry is profitable to both sides. We just need to wait a little longer. The mixed signals are from our AKP government. They are pushing the limits of incompetence. Hopefully Turkey will get rid of them in the next election and we will have a reasonable government.
 
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