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Subject: The Mysteries of Guantanamo
James Dunnigan    4/17/2004 10:03:16 PM

There are 559 terrorism suspects being held in an American prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Another 146 suspects have left the  island. Most of those who have left (134) have been released, and sent back to their country of origin. Another twelve were transferred to the custody of other nations (four to Saudi Arabia, one to Spain and seven to Russia) for further interrogation and possible prosecution.

The main purpose of the Guantanamo Bay operation is interrogation. For over two years, prisoners have been subject to a wide variety of interrogation techniques. None of these included what is normally thought of as torture. Psychological methods are the norm, and are apparently very successful. The results of these interrogations will be kept secret for many years. This is necessary to protect those who gave up information, and the usefulness of that information. All American officials will say is that the Guantanamo interrogations have been very successful. Many of the prisoners were cooperative from the start, although many of those men turned out to be rather low in the al Qaeda chain of command. 

Some of those sent to Guantanamo Bay were taken in error. But as the Taliban government collapsed in late 2001, the few American troops in Afghanistan did not have the resources to insure that every suspicious character they grabbed was really an important intelligence source. So the policy became, "when in doubt, ship 'em out." Many of those taken were grabbed because they were caught trying to kill coalition troops or their Afghan allies. That's how a lot of the teenage prisoners got shipped to Guantanamo. Others were taken because of a hunch. The idea was to get as large a group of Taliban and al Qaeda members as possible. This makes it possible to obtain a large amount of seemingly trivial data on these two organizations. That's where the intelligence analysts come in. All this information forms part of a large, more useful, whole. Often seemingly innocuous information proves vital (like where certain people were at a certain time, or what their job was) when Taliban or al Qaeda organization or operations are being sorted out. 

Keeping these prisoners at Guantanamo for so long was necessary because interrogation methods developed during the Cold War required a long period of time to work. These methods rely on developing personal relationships with reluctant subjects. Basically, you wear them down with familiarity and persistence, not physical torture. Often, the subjects are not even aware that they are giving up secrets, and often you don't let them know that they have. Over months, or years, the subjects lose track of what they have said, or even of what is important. In the meantime, more information is obtained from other prisoners, or from events outside of Guantanamo, which can be developed into new questions. 

Releasing some prisoners may cause problems, because the former prisoners can then report what they gave up. Or, if they gave up a lot, they might be killed. Of course, this can be used as a weapon. A particularly stubborn prisoner, holding very valuable information, might be encouraged to speak up if he is threatened with release, of himself, along with rumors that he talked big time. 

When the full story of the Guantanamo interrogations are eventually released, they will make very interesting reading.

 
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macawman    RE:The Mysteries of Guantanamo   4/19/2004 4:49:05 PM
I would have to say that the Gitmo operation was a necessary scheme in the war with Al Qaeda. But some of the military/CIA powers down there have over reacted and come down hard on anyone showing any sympathy for some of these prisoners human rights. I think the reason for this hard as* approach is to avoid later prosecution by a World Court. Thus the powere to be a Gitmo discredit and then ship off any naysayers. Lately, likely due to world wide criticism, the military has seem to have had an 'epiphany' and mollified some past practises. >>> American military officers are taught the rules of the Geneva Conventions and told they must ignore illegal orders which violate these treaties, even if they come from "temporary occupants of the White House" as General Douglas MacArthur once described. This caused conflicts last year as a courageous General in charge of security at Gitmo, Brigadier General Rick Baccus, insisted on obeying the Geneva Conventions by referring to the prisoners as POWs. Baccus was removed after irritating Major General Michael Dunlavey, who is in charge of interrogating the prisoners, with his decision to allow the Red Cross to put up posters advising detainees they need only provide their name, rank and number during questioning. Meanwhile, quiet resistance within the US military delayed plans for military tribunals, avoiding another violation of the Geneva Conventions. The British sent stern warnings that executing British citizens deemed POWs by the Red Cross would not be tolerated, so their nine citizens have been excused from death threats. This past Summer, after months of private discussions about POW treatment at Gitmo, the Red Cross openly declared the US Government in violation of the Geneva Conventions based upon first hand reports from Cuba. Food quality and exercise rights were tied to cooperation during interrogations, reports of physical torture emerged, and it was revealed that three boys under age 16 were in custody. Since Gitmo was run as a high security facility with all activities considered secret, Gitmo commanders were enraged at the prospect of facing an international war crimes tribunal in the future. Three people who worked among POWs at Gitmo were promptly arrested, and espionage was suggested as the reason. The most noteworthy "spy" was US Army Captain James Yee, who was found to have notes about POWs in a briefcase when he flew into Jacksonville, Florida, which is not uncommon for a chaplain. This West Point graduate was not imprisoned at the Army stockade at nearby Fort Stewart as is customary; he was transported to a maximum security Navy Brig at Charleston, South Carolina, where three other US citizens are held without charges or access to lawyers. Yee was not formally charged within 45 days as required and not allowed free pending charges as is customary for a simple accusation of "mishandling classified information." Yee was recently released after 76 days of confinement and charged with failing to use proper cover sheets for classified documents. Prosecutors also charged him with adultery and viewing pornographic material on a government computer. Since most US servicemen can be charged with such "crimes", a strong message has been sent to every soldier at Gitmo to keep his mouth shut. According to an October 24, 2003 article in the Washington Post, Military authorities launched an investigation of Army Capt. James Yee, a Muslim chaplain at the Guantanamo Bay prison, after a series of confrontations between him and officials over the treatment of al Qaeda and Taliban detainees there, according to military officials and other informed sources. Yee, who ministered to the inmates at the U.S. Navy prison in Cuba, protested what he believed were lives of unrelieved tension and boredom experienced by his fellow Muslims in captivity, the officials and other sources said. Some interrogators at the prison complex objected after concluding that Yee's private, one-on-one meetings with inmates interfered with their attempts to fully control the prisoners' environment, numerous sources said. Some detainees appeared less cooperative in interrogations after visits from Yee, the sources said. Apparently, the senior intelligence officer at Gitmo, US Army Colonel Jack Farr, crossed his superiors too. On November 29, 2003 he was charged with "wrongfully transporting classified material without the proper security container on or around Oct. 11, 2003" and lying to investigators. Criminal charges for such petty violations are extremely rare, and indicate retribution for reasons which remain secret. <<< Sources: G2.mil & Washington Post
 
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