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Subject: Shocking Results of Iraqi Public Opinion Poll
James Dunnigan    3/19/2004 7:32:16 AM

A large scale opinion survey in Iraq, sponsored by several foreign media networks, found that 70 percent of Iraqis thought they were doing well, and 56 percent believed life was better than before the war. Some 70 percent were optimistic about the future.

Iraqis are glad to see Saddam gone, but upset that foreigners had to do it. Thus 49 percent thought the coalition invasion was justified, while 39 percent think it was wrong. While 41.8 percent said the war liberated Iraq, 41.2 percent said Iraq was humiliated. Only 39 percent wanted foreign troops to remain in the country. As for the attacks on foreign troops, 17 percent approved (21 percent of Iraqi Arabs approved of this, but only two percent of Iraqi Kurds.) Overall, 78 percent said the attacks on coalition troops were unacceptable, although that went up to 96.6 percent for attacks on Iraqi police. Understandably, lack of law and order is seen as the most pressing need (22.1 percent of respondents), followed by unemployment (11.8 percent), inflation (9.5 percent), electricity shortages (4.2 percent), housing problems (4.1 percent) and the quality of infrastructure (water supply, road repair and so on, 3.7 percent). The events that make headlines outside of Iraq mean little to the average Iraqi, as only 1.8 percent thought terrorist attacks were the most important issue in their lives, and only .2 percent were concerned about religious and ethnic strife inside Iraq.

Only 20 percent of Iraqis wanted an Islamic state, and 75 percent wanted a strong, unified state, without special privileges for Kurds or anyone else. Religious leaders are trusted the most (by 42.4 percent), and coalition forces the least (4.3 percent). Iraqis now want democratically elected leaders (55.3 percent), but even more they want a strong leader. Saddam Hussein is still respected for his "power" by many Iraqis. While 15.1 percent of Iraqis want coalition forces to leave immediately, 53.3 percent want them to stay until a functioning Iraqi government is in place, or peace is restored to the country.

The survey was conducted by Iraqis, who were hired and trained by the polling organization, Oxford Research International. One thing the survey makes very clear is that most foreign media reporting on Iraq are reporting what they want to see the Iraqi people thinking, not what the Iraqis are actually thinking. This, however, is not unique to Iraq, although European and Arab media tend to be even more distorted in their reporting than is usually the case.

 
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mike_golf    RE:Shocking Results of Iraqi Public Opinion Poll   3/27/2004 1:30:47 PM
WorldRespect wrote: "Mike_golf, honest of you to admit that the Iraq war can only be legitimized in law of the jungle terms." Well, no, that isn't what I "admitted". What I said is that international relations are governed by the law of the jungle. That is not the same thing at all. I believe the war in Iraq was justified for the same reason that the war against Hitler was justified. In other words, as far as I am concerned removing Hussein and the Ba'ath party from power was a moral and ethical decision. The activity, returning prosperity, open political discussions and opinion of the Iraqi people that we see in this poll and in the news every day is sufficient indication that my position is correct. Additionally I believe strongly that the French, German and Russian governments opposed deposing Hussein, both in 1991 and 2003, because they stood to lose money on the amoral deals and loans between their countries and Iraq. In other words I believe that the US and UK actually hold the moral high ground here and that Russia, France and Germany are morally bankrupt. Have a great day!
 
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swhitebull    IGNORANCE SHOWN BY THIS POST - Why Waste Time on Teaching the Holocaust   3/27/2004 1:45:09 PM
...Oh yes, that is really biased education if we do not put all our focus on the military US aid for the Soviets. We waste so much time with the holocaust, you are really right we should emphasize what is really important... OH GOODIE - We have a live one!@! He repeats this very first post on this thread, THEN ADDS in a SLAM against teaching the Holocaust as "A WASTE OF TIME". Hm and why is it such a waste of time, buckaroo? Tired of having to hear how you Germans WASTED THE TIME of 6,000,000 Jews, and countless others - ANOTHER ACT of POLITICAL COURAGE on your population's part, right? So, do you think if you stop teaching what happened, you hope that people won't have to deal with your collective guilt anymore? Or remember the sins committed. SORRY AGAIN if your delicate sensibilities continue to be offended by this, so so sorry. I wonder why to you it's a waste of time? Please explain. It's not important? as you say, "you are really right we should emphasize what is really important." And I guess the treatment of the Jews by European moralists during WW2, and their treatment today by TODAY'S immoral majority is equally a waste of time and not worthy of your attention. Just like the Bosnians, I guess. swhitebull - tick tock
 
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   RE:Shocking Results of Iraqi Public Opinion Poll   3/27/2004 3:25:48 PM
I think we can discount outright the possibility of this being a scientific poll??
 
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mike_golf    RE:Shocking Results of Iraqi Public Opinion Poll   3/27/2004 3:31:22 PM
Actually this was a "scientific" survey. It was conducted by a major polling firm, I don't recall which one right this moment, and sponsored by several major non-US media firms. No, given the conditions in Iraq, this is about as accurate as a poll could have gotten.
 
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   RE:Shocking Results of Iraqi Public Opinion Poll   3/27/2004 6:15:55 PM
"The survey was conducted by Iraqis, who were hired and trained by the polling organization, Oxford Research International." This is the part that threw me off. That and the utter lack of established telecommunications infrastructure vital for a survey proper..
 
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bsl    RE:What happened? Is there a full moon out tonight?   3/27/2004 7:14:34 PM
getBack, Are you German? European? I'd like to see the context of your...notes....
 
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appleciderus    Polls!   3/27/2004 10:04:06 PM
Question: Do you think sex before marriage is wrong? Answer: Yes! Question: Do you think sex with yourself is wrong? Answer: Yes! Question: Do you think extra-marital sex is wrong? Answer: Yes! Question: Have you ever? (any of the above) Answer: Of course! Conclusion: ?Shocking conclusions to sex poll of US citizens? Polls are **BS**!!!!! This is another attempt by those who would bend public opinion to their minority viewpoint. There is nothing surprising about Iraqi?s expressing gratitude for liberation, and the same Iraqi?s expressing impatience for independence. There is nothing surprising about media ?shock? to this Iraqi poll!
 
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glenn    RE:Polls!   3/28/2004 2:10:10 AM
Thats assuming the polls are "anti-american." I think theyr rather realistic - not great, but exactly where a reasonable person might have guessed the numbers would fall..
 
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mike_golf    RE:IGNORANCE SHOWN BY THIS POST - Why Waste Time on Teaching the Holocaust   3/28/2004 9:20:17 AM
WorldRespect wrote: "But I insist that military US aid for the Soviets is not a major historic fact that should be focussed on in history lessons." Well, since it is fairly clear that one of the single biggest factors in the USSR being able to withstand the German attack and then defeat the Germans is American Lend-Lease I have to wonder what you would call a "major historic fact"? It was absolutely crucial that the USSR not be defeated if Germany was going to be defeated. American Lend-Lease was a key piece of the USSR not being defeated. I'd say that qualifies as a major historic fact.
 
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Green Dragon    RE:What happened? Is there a full moon out tonight?   3/28/2004 12:04:43 PM
So very convenient of you to bring the rope with which to hang yourself, saves me a lot of unnecessary effort. 'which prohibits any nation from using force against another. The charter allows for only two exceptions to this rule: when force is required in self-defense (Article 51)' So the US & the UK were not exercising self-defence by preventing Iraq PERMANENTLY from shooting at their pilots enforcing the no-fly zone? Was it wrong for Australia, Poland and sundry other nations to agree with them in helping to prevent this from occuring under this pretext? 'Security Council authorizes the use of force to protect international peace and security (Chapter VII)'. Which authority, needless to say, had already been granted. I will tell you one thing up front, I most certainly am not a lawyer, I just have the unhappy lot of telling them what to do and how to do it, for which they charge the company I work for an extortionate amount. The last person I will ask for a legal opinion is a lawyer..
 
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