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Subject: Northern Fleet Wargames
roadcop    2/18/2004 1:27:29 AM
Current days Russian Northern Fleet and Strategic Aviation take part in large wargames "SECURITY-2004" in Barents Sea. Today (18.02) in the sea there are 13 surface warships (incl. CV and CGN), 7 nuclear submarines, many aircraft. SSBN "Novomoscovsk" imitates ICBM launch. Engels AFB based Tu-95 bombers practice cruise missile launch. Heavy nuclear-powered cruiser "Piotr Velikiy" have intercepted ballistic missile with her modified "FORT" SAMs. President Putin himself visited Severomorsk. During ICBM training launch he was onboard of "Archangelsk" SSBN. This is a good indication of Russia growing might because 5-7 years ago such maneuvres were impossible (lack of money, fuel, ammo and trained personnel).
 
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Final Historian    RE:Northern Fleet Wargames   2/18/2004 11:33:59 AM
I understand there were some problems, something to do with the missiles not launching from the sub. But it certainly demonstrates that Russia is repairing the damage done by the fall of the Soviet Union. I wonder what it will look like in 10 years time...
 
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Phoenix Rising    RE:Northern Fleet Wargames   2/18/2004 6:33:45 PM
Don't bet the farm on a Russian military revival yet. They'll always have the nuclear trump card, so their territorial integrity is reasonably secure. They'll also probably be able to put together several highly qualified small units (commando or similar types). However, for all conflicts requiring more conventional application of force, they're going to be hurting for a while. Money in the Russian military is tight, professionalism from top to bottom is low, and the draft is unpopular (but because money is tight they can't afford to go professional). Some of their more recent technology is good but the gap between "cutting-edge" Russian and American technology is widening, and many of their better scientists have jumped ship to work in the EU or US. Power projection assets have been left to rust. Social and economic stagnation outside Moscow and St. Petersburg has eroded much of the long-term viability of the tax base. Its status, and its equipment, may carry weight among the third world, but Russia has a lot of issues to work through to make long-term progress in restoring itself to military greatness among the industrialized powers. --Phoenix Rising
 
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wait.wat?    Phoenix Rising   2/18/2004 8:08:27 PM
EU??? AHAHAHAHHA. EU can not compare with Russia. And the information you are providing is about 5 years too late.
 
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sentinel28a    RE:Phoenix Rising   2/19/2004 5:05:58 PM
The Russians have been doing more power projection exercises lately. The optimist in me says this is good--the Russian military could use a boost in morale, and they could be a very valuable ally in the future. The pessimist in me wonders what Putin's up to.
 
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Scorpene    Putin is probably looking south   7/5/2004 12:13:20 PM
Putin's wargaming is probably focusing on the love-hate relationship his nation has had with China. Their defense industry has done good down there with sales, but the Russians have their own illegal immigration problems in their Eastern provinces. If China gets resource hungry, and the wrong people are in power in Beijing, they might just make a lunge for Siberia, or there might be a breakaway movement financed by them. Tom Clancy was right on the money in The Bear and the Dragon.
 
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Alexis    Chinese aggression - to Scorpene   7/7/2004 11:25:03 AM
I think your "breakaway movement financed by China" scenario is much more probable than a Chinese attack on Siberia. Attacking Russia would be folly for China from the classical weapons point of view and will remain for long, while the nuclear factor will always continue to make it a folly. On the other hand, breakaway movements are the way to go now more than ever when you're into territory conquest. Look to Germany's bid over the Sudetes in 1938, or Kosovo's practical secession from Serbia. It's true the expanding Chinese population in Russian Siberia is a looming threat for the future.
 
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Big Bad Pariah    RE:Northern Fleet Wargames - Russia testfires SS-18 Satan   7/12/2004 8:48:11 AM
Russia test-launches missiles From correspondents in Moscow 30jun04 RUSSIA successfully test-launched three missiles today, firing one from a nuclear submarine and another from the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, Russian media reported. The Defence Ministry confirmed that the Yekaterinburg submarine fired a RSM-54 missile from the Barents Sea to the Kura testing ground in Kamchatka, about 7000 kilometres to the East. The ITAR-Tass news agency, citing the Defence Ministry, said the missile hit its target 28 minutes after its 11.25am (5.25pm AEST) launch. Meanwhile, Russia's Tu-95MS strategic rocket-carrying aircraft also successfully launched a cruise missile at a target on the remote Novaya Zemlya archipelago in the Arctic, ITAR-Tass reported. The plane left Engles airbase in the Saratov region and flew 3000 kilometres to carry out its mission, ITAR-Tass said. And a RS-20 heavy intercontinental ballistic missile, known in the West as the SS-18 Satan, was also successfully launched from Russia's Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, the Interfax-Military news agency reported. That launch was made to test whether the service life of the missile, which can carry 10 nuclear warheads, could be extended beyond its current 20 years, Interfax said. ITAR-Tass said the launches were conducted as part of a military training exercise, known as Mobility 2004, which is winding down in Russia's Far East. The ITAR-Tass news agency said the RSM-54 missile launched from the submarine was the third to be test-launched successfully this year. Two such missiles were to have been tested during naval exercises in February attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin but failed due to technical glitches. In March, Russia's naval chief, Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov, said one of the failed launches was due to the missile's age - 17 years, as opposed to its planned lifetime of 7 years. He said the navy considered the RSM-54 missiles only 95 per cent reliable. Herald and Weekly Times I thought Russia agreed to disarm the SS-18 Satan?
 
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