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Subject: Here's a question.
00_Chem_AJB    8/26/2008 12:54:45 AM
Serbia hopes to join the EU in the near future and maybe some other western organizations. Serbia is alos one of Russia's strongest allies, so how will they react if their little brother joins the EU?
 
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Nasty German Idiot       8/26/2008 5:14:55 AM
They will simply have to accept it, it was foreseeable anyway since the fall of Milo ... They managed to kill Dzindjic, but that did not stop the pro-western course of Serbia. If they want to prosper, they have to join, let alone for  EU-subsidies.
 
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Knjaz       8/26/2008 11:25:50 AM
I doubt they dont want it so much.
They alrdy said once, that they'll agree if Ukraine (which is FAR more imoprtant for them) enters EU.

although, it could be a different story with NATO membership (just as with Ukraine).


 
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Yimmy       8/26/2008 11:38:39 AM
The EU is just a free trade bloc anyway.  All the legal and military crap is just an afterthought which states can opt out of.  There is no reason why Russia shouldn't join in the future.
 

 
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FJV       8/26/2008 12:31:48 PM
Never interrupt your opponent while making a mistake could be their reaction.
 
There is a huge amount of bad blood between the states of former Yugoslavia. I wonder how the EU or NATO will handle a situation where 2 of it's members are waging war on each other. In my opinion it is very likely that that region will see another war between now and 20 years (if not sooner).
 
 
 

 
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Yimmy       8/26/2008 1:01:56 PM

 I wonder how the EU or NATO will handle a situation where 2 of it's members are waging war on each other.

Reference Turkey and Greece over Cyprus.
 
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Nasty German Idiot       8/26/2008 1:17:35 PM
The EU is just a free trade bloc anyway.  All the legal and military crap is just an afterthought which states can opt out of.  There is no reason why Russia shouldn't join in the future.
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It was the EU subsidies that brought Ireland back from the middle Ages to the top of Europe. Ironically, they were the ones that voted against the new treaties because their EU money share would have been cut back in favor of the new EU-members. But that doesnt stop Poland, Chzec-republic or Slowenia from profiting a lot from their membership. Same would apply to Serbia, as Slowenias example shows. (one, if not the - most prosperous East European state !)
 
Never interrupt your opponent while making a mistake could be their reaction.

 

There is a huge amount of bad blood between the states of former Yugoslavia. I wonder how the EU or NATO will handle a situation where 2 of it's members are waging war on each other. In my opinion it is very likely that that region will see another war between now and 20 years (if not sooner).


 

 

 



We have had that situation in Nato already, between Greece and Turkey. Spain and Britain quarreled over some rocks in the mediterranian. No real impact. 

On the long term, even almost eternal conflicts can be solved - who would have though France, Germany and Poland to become allies one day ? The EU presents the brightest chance the Balkans had for decades.

 
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Yimmy       8/26/2008 1:22:49 PM
Indeed NGI - and it makes me wonder if we would be better off out of Europe completely, and rather subsidise our industry to even the costs with trading with the European Union, rather than being in the bloc and gaining the trade bonuses, but throwing bucket loads of money to insignificant piss ant states like Ireland and Spain.
 
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FJV    Cyprus   8/27/2008 3:30:08 PM
Cyprus that is one of the main issues why Turkey is not admitted to the EU.
 
In my opinion the current EU and NATO for that fact is unable to deal when a full scale war with large casualties breaks out between 2 members.
 
During the breakup of Yugoslavia there were already signs of EU states behind the scenes favoring some of their former allies over others, which is one of the reasons why I'm not happy that Milosevic died before he had a chance to testify, being curious to know what happened behind the scenes. I have no idea wheter this behavior from the EU members will be better if/when the fighting resumes.

I don't see any good come of this.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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