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Subject: Russian Spetsnaz, US Green berets and British SAS
Scud Launcher    4/26/2006 4:45:18 AM
The spetsnaz have been known for their spectacular missions such as the 45-minute capture of all major buildings in Kabul, masquerading in the west as athletes, infiltration of the terrorist-captured soviet embassy in Beirut and others. How about the US green berets or the British SAS? What did they do to prove their skills?
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Scud Launcher    additional statements   4/26/2006 4:54:05 AM
I forgot to mention the capture of a Japanese garrison by Spetsnaz units during the manchurian offensive and also the possibilty that the Spetsnaz took home the "weapons of mass detruvtion" before the US army could find them.
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flamingknives    RE:Russian Spetsnaz, US Green berets and British SAS   6/13/2006 3:59:18 PM
Clearly people know the achievements of their own countrymen better than those of foreigners. The SAS count in their achievements the storming of the Iranian Embassy, Actions in Oman, Dhofar, Brunei and Afghanistan, and are widely regarded as one of the best special forces in the world. They tend to keep fairly quiet about their endevours though, Andy McNab et. al. nonwithstanding, as most of their work seems to be about surveillance etc. It was my understanding, however, that the majority of the Spetznaz were more akin to the British Parachute Regiment than full-on special forces.
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jastayme3    RE:Russian Spetsnaz, US Green berets and British SAS   7/1/2006 3:16:44 PM
The Green Berets arranged the liason with friendly elements in Afghanistan during the invasion, and still do so. Much of the success of the campaign comes from the defections they negotiated. They have historically worked long deep in hostile territory training local elements. The Green Berets are primarily a specialized liason force. During Vietnam it was used to train friendly guerillas and local militias. This required spending long periods of time among locals, learning their customs and earning their trust-often with foes lurking all about. They would then go into battle beside their comrades. It was less cinematic but could be equally dangerous. I know an exiled Hmong tribesman at my church who likly enough worked with them during the Indochina War. Naturally I never asked him to tell stories and he hasn't volunteered information. This mission continues on, probably even during alleged peacetime.
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crafty beagle    RE:Russian Spetsnaz, US Green berets and British SAS   8/7/2006 10:02:06 PM
It would not be right to have this conversation without mentioning other groups such as the Rangers, Delta Force, SEAL's, and my cousin would be angry if I did not include the Marines stationed at Camp Pendleton. All of these groups have long storied histories and lists of achievements too long to mention.
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