Military History
|
How To Make War
|
Wars Around the World
Rules of Use
How to Behave on an Internet Forum
Syria
Discussion Board
Return to Topic Page
Subject:
Foreign Diplomats Flee And U.S. Braces For The Worst
SYSOP
12/12/2012 5:07:56 AM
Quote
Reply
Show Only Poster Name and Title
Newest to Oldest
Gerry
12/12/2012 9:36:38 PM
This has turned into an Islamist dream and a nightmare for everybody else. Too many nuts with only one oar in the water. The US should be hands off until the blood bath is over. I suspect it may go on for a long time after Assad is gone.
Quote
Reply
Carlos Marx-Smith
12/13/2012 3:58:20 AM
The PKK is of course fighting the Islamists. The PKK stands for (in Kurdish of course) Kurdistan Workers Party as any search on the 'net will show. Yes, they are "Marxist" etc, but they are the only hope for the Kurds to begin establishing a nation based on the values of the Enlightenment, not on Islmaic "values". No, it probably would not be a parliamentary democracy, mores the pity. Not to begin with anyway. And before we begin accusations such as "another repressive regime" , the PKK would not stand for Islamic values such as keeping females out of education, covering them up and regarding them as baby factories for the sole purpose of bringing up martyrs. This is important because by freeing the female population from repression, the whole of society will benefit and ignorance (which the Islamists prey on) will be abated. As an aside, the current elected president of Iraq was part of a socialist anti-Saddam Kurdish resistance movement. BTW, I am not suggesting that the PKK is some squeaky clean outfit, or "goodies" as it were. Only that they, as well other anti-Islamist movements, are the best chance to at least check the power of the Islamists.
It certainly is a nightmare for the non Islamists. The Islamists are sensing that the Pan-Arabic Caliphate is close. Let's hope that the resistance remains disciplined. Can you imaging a Hamas style regime over the whole area?
Quote
Reply
Skylark
12/13/2012 5:26:02 AM
Why do U.S. forces need to be sent in to secure the chemical weapons? The Russians are already there, and they are likely just as interested in seeing WMDs not being used where their people live, as we are in making certain the Terrorists don't get them. Remember that the rebels are very unhappy with the Russians for supporting and arming the Assad regime. Does anyone doubt that the first target for a captured chemical WMD could very likely be the naval base at Tartus? Sending in special forces has, unfortunately, become the politically safe way of projecting U.S. military power. But the risks of sending in small, lightly armed forces deep into enemy territory requires a mission goal that can be accomplished quickly. There is nothing 'hit-and-run' about securing a warehouse or a bunker loaded with scud missiles and chemical stockpiles and then holding it in the face of an enemy determined to get at them, whether they are rebels or loyalists or... BOTH. Such an operation will require us to send in an army to relieve the special Ops team within 12 to 24 hours, and I think the Russians will have views on the subject. If they don't oppose us directly, they could (As they have been known to do in the past) tip off the bad guys that a black-ops helicopter is approaching them from a particular direction, at a set altitude and within a certain time-frame. A more sensible solution would be to secure guarantees from the Russians that stockpiles of WMDs will be secured by Russian forces, if and when the Assad regime collapses. Which, if the stories of them down to using SCUDS is any indication that their stockpiles of ammo is running low, could be very soon.
Quote
Reply
TonoFonseca
Syria
12/13/2012 12:54:00 PM
It's retarded that people are "recognising the Syrian opposition". There is no "Syrian opposition"; it's just an assortment of people fighting to destroy Assad. It's not like they're working together or anything. I support the Kurdish separatists, and I just hope that the rest of Syria won't be governed by anybody too extreme, since it won't be any better than that.
Quote
Reply
trenchsol
12/13/2012 3:38:23 PM
Whatever becomes of Syria, it is better than being an ally of Iran. It will probably become another Egypt, which is bad, but better that Iranian satellite country. Of course, nobody knows what will become of Egypt, yet. But, Iran has proven certain ability to get organized and cause more serious problems. Losing their only regional ally will hit them hard.
Particularly the fact that they spent billions to support Syrian regime. All that money has gone in vain. That will have effect on Iranian internal politics, deep ones. Difficult to say how deep.
Having another Islamic nation with hostile attitudes is bad. But it doesn't change much. They are not the only ones, and they were not friendly in the past, either. I say that Egypt is much more alarming. It was an Islamic nation with hostile attitudes and friendly government. Now it is a nation with same hostile attitudes and very much undetermined government. And it is the largest Islamic nation, after Indonesia.
DG
Quote
Reply
Latest
News
Most
Read
Most
Commented
Hot
Topics
AIR DEFENSE: Never Enough Air Defense Missiles
SUBMARINES: US Colombia SSBNs Behind Schedule
PROCUREMENT: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
PROCUREMENT: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
CHINA: China April 2024 Update
SUBMARINES: New Submarines for Norway
WEAPONS: Russia Running Out of Antique Weapons
SOMALIA: Somalia April 2024
ARTILLERY: New Iranian Weapons
INTELLIGENCE: NATO Suspects a Threat
ATTRITION: Russia fires on Ukrainian Fakes
NAVAL AIR: Tritons Assemble
WEAPONS: South Korean Arms Exports to the Middle East
LIBYA: Libya April Update
ARTILLERY: Russia Bombards Ukraine With North Korean Missiles
WARPLANES: South Korea’s Troubled KF-21 Jet Fighter Project
AIR WEAPONS: Drones Dominate Ukrainian Battlefield
SUBMARINES: Ukraine Obtains Anti-Submarine Weapons
MURPHY'S LAW: Nationwide Impact of Ukraine War in Russia
STRATEGIC WEAPONS: American ARRW Missile Tested
SURFACE FORCES : Vasily Bykov class Corvettes
SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Tatar Rebels in Crimea
PROCUREMENT: China Supercharges Military Spending
ARMOR: M1A2SEP3 Tank Paradox
AIR DEFENSE: Russia Seeks Answers
ARTILLERY: HIMARS Prevails Against Russians
ARTILLERY: Chinese-Truck Mounted Artillery
SURFACE FORCES : Zumwalt Class Destroyers Find a Purpose
ARTILLERY: NATO Artillery Shell Shortage
SUBMARINES: Lada Class Submarine Abandoned
Subscribe to Our RSS Feed
Air Defense: Never Enough Air Defense Missiles
Submarines: US Colombia SSBNs Behind Schedule
WARS China: China April 2024 Update
Weapons: Russia Running Out of Antique Weapons
Procurement: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
Procurement: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
Submarines: New Submarines for Norway
Artillery: New Iranian Weapons
On PointIsrael's Airspace Defense Victory: Credit Reagan's SDI
WARS Somalia: Somalia April 2024
Intelligence: NATO Suspects a Threat
Attrition: Russia fires on Ukrainian Fakes
Naval Air: Tritons Assemble
Weapons: South Korean Arms Exports to the Middle East
Air Weapons: Drones Dominate Ukrainian Battlefield
Artillery: Russia Bombards Ukraine With North Korean Missiles
WEAPONS: Russia Running Out of Antique Weapons
CHINA: China April 2024 Update
AIR DEFENSE: Where the Patriot Missile Batteries Are
WEAPONS: South Korean Arms Exports to the Middle East
NAVAL AIR: Tritons Assemble
ATTRITION: Russia fires on Ukrainian Fakes
INTELLIGENCE: NATO Suspects a Threat
ARTILLERY: New Iranian Weapons
SOMALIA: Somalia April 2024
SUBMARINES: New Submarines for Norway
SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Ukrainian Improvised Air-Defense Network
SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Ukrainian Improvised Air-Defense Network
PROCUREMENT: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
PROCUREMENT: Neutral Switzerland Upgrades Its Military
SUBMARINES: US Colombia SSBNs Behind Schedule
Air Defense: Where the Patriot Missile Batteries Are
News
How To Make War
Wars Around The World
Austin Bay's On Point
StrategyTalk
Dirty Little Secrets
Features
Al Nofi's CIC
Videos
Photos
Jokes
Community
Military Discussion Boards
Military Jokes
Military Photos
Military Book Reviews
StrategyPage
Account Manager
Login
Feedback
About Us
Search
Advertise With Us
Search