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Subject: what would happen if mecca or medina in saudi arabia was nuked
rwporter    8/20/2004 5:40:54 PM
if israel or the united states decided to retaliate against muslims by nuking islams two holiest cities(mecca and medina)what would happen to the war on terrorism....would radical muslims retaliate or would the war on terrorism be over since the center of islam is mecca and medina??
 
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Jerry W. Loper    By who, the West . . . . . or Islam?   6/10/2005 10:20:25 AM
If Mecca and Medina were nuked, IMO it would not be by the USA or Israel, but by radical Islamists who wanted to unite the entire Muslim world against the West. This is something I'd expect Usama Bin Laden to do, not Bush or Blair or Sharon. I firmly believe there are Muslim extremist groups crazy enough to try this, it'd be sort of an Islamic version of the Russian plot in Tom Clancy's book "Red Storm Rising."
 
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Rocster-yank    RE:You still don't get it....make them think twice.. deterrents   6/11/2005 2:09:57 PM
I propose this.. while the subject is being talked about.. The US president of Congress states that if any US City is ever nuked and evidence provides it comes from an Islamic sourse the 3 holiest Moslem cities will be nuked in response. Now.. that makes some nutjob radical think twice if his move will cause the destruction of his shrines. Secondly.. I think there would be a huge change of attitude in Saudi Arabia on the idea of radical islam and lookin the other way.. now we know this will never happen.. its our western christian culture and ideas that would prevent us from playin an eye for an eye... but.. its a thought worth throwing out there. Now the old Russians would do this ! And I live in one of the US Cities that is first on the hit list for Al Qaeda.
 
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TriggaFingaz    Deterrence does not work on Islamists   6/11/2005 5:48:36 PM
This is one mad thread. To even think of nuking the two holiest places of Islam? What ARE YOU THINKING????? Only Desertmole has got it right: it would drive pretty much ALL Muslims into the filthy arms of the Enemy. I understand that the Enemy (ie, Islamist terrorists) are acting out the darker side of the Koran and attempting to satisfy their need for blood letting. But despite them claiming to be the 'only' practitioners of 'true' Islam, we should always view them as the pests to be separated from the corn, not treat the cornfield as a whole as an enemy. The Enemy has a clear propaganda advantage over the western world. Don't give them ANYTHING to use as an excuse or pretext.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:Deterrence does not work on Islamists   7/3/2005 11:36:21 AM
"Rocster-yan: I propose this.. while the subject is being talked about.. The US president of Congress states that if any US City is ever nuked and evidence provides it comes from an Islamic sourse the 3 holiest Moslem cities will be nuked in response. " Haha, the third holiest is JERUSALEM. :) Home of the Al-Aqsa mosque (Which has a Martyrs Brigade named after it, something you wont find on tour brochures) and the supposed "beginning" of the second Intifada.
 
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INfiDel    party!!   7/14/2005 2:38:11 AM
what if they nuked KSA..... then there would be a massive party at my place....
 
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bazos    RE:what would happen if mecca or medina in saudi arabia was nuked   7/14/2005 7:31:06 AM
What will happen ? First thoses cities and their surbabans will be destroyed , many people will die.Second others countries and people will fear US like never because of the fear to be the next target.Maybe the real problem will be a moral problem like with japan with first atomic bomb.But there will not a third world war because of lack of opponents!!!
 
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Jimme    RE:what would happen if mecca or medina in saudi arabia was nuked   7/17/2005 10:59:22 PM
This is something i have always thought about myself. there are many ramifications to this. On one hand you could say all the muslims would unite as a front against the west. There are also two aspects to this, you have more pissed off people but you now dont have to worry about offending neutrals anymore and can just go about killing everyone. Islam would be outlawed and eventualy destroyed. On the other hand, having your "holiest" place destroyed could also lead many to questioning Islam as a religion because how could Allah allow it to happen? How would there faith hold out after such a shock? I dout either US nor Isreal would ever nuke or even threaten to nuke Mecca. However a disgruntled Terrorist out of the west who wanted to give Muslims a taste of there own medecine, would be another story.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:what would happen if mecca or medina in saudi arabia was nuked   7/17/2005 11:16:33 PM
Well, what would happen if Washington DC was nuked? "uhh, kill the people who ain't with us?" Nuking Mecca/Medina is something I'd expect out of King Leopold's Belgium.
 
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Desertmole    RE:party!! NOT!!   7/18/2005 6:03:13 AM
INfiDel said: "what if they nuked KSA..... then there would be a massive party at my place.... " You may have a party, but you would PO over a billion people. Picture a hundred million or so suicide bombers, all determined to take out Americans anywhere they could find them. Understand, the prevailing attitude would probably be one that Allah allowed the nuking to happen because they were not faithful enough. The radical Imams would have a field day preaching that one. You would start a war of civilizations that the Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. are currently ill-equipped to deal with (lack of will). Look, I lived in Saudi for 12 and a half years and tried to get into their mindset. Their religion dictates their behaviour. And all if Islam preaches the eventual conversion of infidels (including you) to Islam, or to remove them from the gene pool. There is no compromise.
 
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PAki Rulz    it cant happen   7/18/2005 2:58:11 PM
You see we muslims are not the type these flthy terroists are showing.We are civilized people and the idea u are showing that u can bomb makka[God forbid]cannot happen because its Allahs house and there are millions of gaurds ready to sacrifice there lives.
 
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INfiDel    RE:it cant happen   7/20/2005 1:23:29 PM
paki rulz! you are stupid... the reason you gave was that it was allah's house?? do you honestly think that when the bomb is dropping, allah will come and snuff it out? drop bomb... will explode regardless if its makka or timbuktu.
 
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Saudi-Soldier    RE:it cant happen   7/20/2005 8:10:05 PM
Nuke Mecca and hell will happen. Oil prices will reach 100 $ and above, terrorist bombings happening everywhere are just some stuff of what will happen. Un-violent muslims will turn into crazy radicals and their one goal is to get rid of USA. Not only that, but the rest of the world will hate USA. But of course you guys don't think of that.
 
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Jimme    RE:it cant happen   7/21/2005 11:16:24 PM
" Nuke Mecca and hell will happen. Oil prices will reach 100 $ and above, terrorist bombings happening everywhere are just some stuff of what will happen. Un-violent muslims will turn into crazy radicals and their one goal is to get rid of USA. Not only that, but the rest of the world will hate USA. But of course you guys don't think of that." What If the west decided they've had enough, you think Muslims are the only one that can blow things up and terrorize people? You think in this holocoust scenerio all travel to and fro the mid east cant be shut down, all muslims in the west couldn't be rounded up and SA's oil fields just taken over while the rest of the population is desimated till every mid eastern Muslim is eradicated? Remember the only advantage these terrorist have is that the rest of the world is civilized and beyond comprehending such evils, but if it keeps getting pushed the dark side will eventualy come out and then were will the terrorists be? take this scenerio, now what if the US wasnt the nice guys they are and decided to hell with Iraqs population and just firebombed an entire area when ever they get resistance. If the city get rowdy nuke it , and see how the other cities will react if they know unrulliness wont be tolerated? You might say the rest of the world wont stand for it, well what exactly would they do? especialy to a real "Devil" of a US. Mind your business or we'll nuke you too, nuke back and well destroy your whole country, try to gang up on us and we'll destroy the whole world. If the US was half the Demon these guys make it out to be they would have been wipedout long ago. Its because of the Moral code US must abide by that they have opportunity to take advantage. Dont get it wrong, if the proverbial Spit hits the fan all the moralities go out the window and people will do what they must to survive.
 
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sanman    RE:it cant happen   7/22/2005 8:15:42 PM
Millions of Muslims being ready to sacrifice their lives simply means that they will be isolated from the rest of the non-Muslims. Like I said, Muslims need the rest of the world more than the rest of the world needs Muslims. Pakistan is an example of a country which cannot survive without US support. Whether that support is obtained through promises to fight the USSR or through promises to fight AlQaeda, Pakistan cannot live for long without that support.
 
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sanman    RE:it cant happen   7/22/2005 8:21:51 PM
Muslims love to say "get out of our land" but the reciprocal effect will be for Muslims to get out of OUR lands. Muslims like to brag about the oil, but that oil was sitting there for a long time and they never saw any value in it. As the civilized world develops new sources of energy, the value that they gaveth to oil will similarly be taken away. Once the Islamic Oil has no value, what will they flaunt for self-worth? How will they make a living? Once the oil doesn't have the value to support them anymore, Muslims will themselves be forced to change their lifestyles and culture in order to even just make a living. The force of Reality will hit Mecca and Medina harder than any nuke can. You can't fool Nature -- not even Allah can.
 
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