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Subject: 75MM Pack Howitzer
Gilbert    6/1/2005 11:43:50 AM
There is a WWII 75MM Pack Howitzer M1A1 in a park near my house, and I've been wondering how effective a weapon it really was. I found the maximum range to be about 9600 yards, but what I'd like to know is how accurate was it at that range, or any reasonable range for that matter. I see that the accuracy of modern weapons is measured in Circular Error Probability (CEP), but I can't find anything about the 75MM. Is there any data or a person with first hand experience out there who could comment on this?
 
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FSV    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   6/14/2005 3:34:24 PM
You can fire more rounds-per-minute at Zone #1 than at Zone #2 before the risk 'cook-offs' become a problem. I do not have a manual that gives that type of information.
 
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neutralizer    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   6/25/2005 4:39:46 AM
A recently found quote concerning 1 Mtn Regt RA in WW2. "In the 1919-20 Campaign in Waziristan, the Mahsud tribesmen called the 3.7" how 'the gun with the eyes'. The howitzer, a successor to Kipling's Screw Gun, was treasured by mountain gunners, both Regular and Indian, and when it was substituted for a while by the US 75mm pack howitizer in 1944, 1 Mountain Regiment's history noted that it 'did nothing for our morale'."
 
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Gilbert    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   7/7/2005 9:14:02 PM
Gentlemen, I thought that I had an M1A1 on an M1 carriage, but now I think it's an M8 instead. Originally I was going by the large "M1" cast right into the carriage nameplate. Please see my photo of it at: link But stamped lightly, probably with a hammer and hand-held die, after the word "CARR" are the letters "M8." The recoil mechanism tag says that it is an M1A7 PA. You can see the whole gun at: link With this information, according to Jane's Armour and Artillery 1979-1980, what I have is an M116. Is that what it looks like to you? Is that the same as the Pack Howitzer M1A1 and Carriage M8 covered by TM 9-319, and are both of these (the M1A1 on M8, and the M116) airborne units? If so, what is unique about them that makes them airborne? I managed to borrow a TM 9-320 through the interlibrary loan system, but it doesn't cover the M8 carriage. Can you guys help me out again?
 
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Ex-11B    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   7/10/2005 4:55:53 PM
Where do you live? We used to have a Stuart light tank near my parents house, but they removed it as part of an upgrade of the park. It's for skateboarder's now........:( waffenhauser@hotmail.com
 
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artillerydan    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   9/18/2005 10:27:09 PM
Gibert, is this your gun??? If so I would be interested in buying it. $6500 Thanks! Dan
 
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Gilbert    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   12/21/2005 11:19:07 AM
Hi Artillerydan, No, the gun does not belong to me. It is in a county park a couple of blocks from my house. Gilbert
 
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Carl S    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   12/22/2005 12:55:26 AM
Gilbert...this has been a interesting read. Thought I'd clarify a point about battery sizes. The four gun battery (troop in the British army) was the most common. The US did have a 'cannon company' in each regiment of six guns during WWII. These were usually halftrack mounted cannon, but some light divisions such as the mountain divsion used the pack howitzer. The German LiG refered to by FSV was found in differing size groups in the regiments, depending on which of the many TO/TE applied to the regiment. I dont have these TO/TE with me but six was originally the most common. Two 150mm LiG were also common in the German infantry regiments.
 
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Carl S    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   12/22/2005 8:09:57 AM
Gilbert (anyone else with a interest), if you go to the Consimworld web site, find the 'Artillery' discussion board in the Fourms section, there is a list of miscl websites on 20th Century artillery. None are perfect but reading the several that discuss Indirect Fire techniques should give you a good aggregate basic knowlwdge.
 
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packhow75    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   1/18/2006 4:08:48 PM
All Am new on here... however FYI, the 75mm Pack Howitzer on this website: link Is mine... and before anyone asks... not for sale... Also is ex-British Airborne example and retains all of the WW2 British Airborne modifications. Regards Tim
 
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Carl S    RE:75MM Pack Howitzer   1/18/2006 9:45:58 PM
Excellent photos & web site.
 
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