Guided sniper bullets. How far is it?

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wkwillis anti body armor round 6/22/2004 10:15:16 AM

Body armor is cheap and getting cheaper. You can use a fast, heavy, kinetic kill device (a lead slug), or an squash head explosive device, or a shaped charge, or a toxic warhead. All of these require very heavy weapons to kill somebody because they need high velocity for low dispersion line of sight use. A lobbed projectile with chip controlled piezo deflectors would enable you to build a less than ten pound weapon that will go through any armor that is man portable. It wouldn't be line of sight, but so what? You just point it and it will kill whatever is in it's sights. Think of a 25 mm recoiless sniper rifle that can go through an inch of steel using a heat charge, or smash in someone's chest using squash head, or explode with toxic fragments at one meter. If you want to play nice, say, put some of that superslippery pink foam in that last one. The guy is blinded, slippery, stinky, and glows in the dark, all at once. Embarassing but nonlethal. The perfect anti suicide-by-cop weapon.

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doggtag RE:anti body armor round 6/22/2004 12:49:29 PM

a good proposal, wkwillis. These mini guided devices would also provide an effective police weapon: the perfect covert weapon in a hostage stand-off would be a innocent-looking ant, butterfly, or even honeybee device that could be released and target any uncooperative bad guys. As far as the guided foam bullet you mention: if it could be some kind of persistent marking dye that could be sensor tracked, then you wouldn't necessarily need mega-police chases to apprehend a felon: the bank he robs just launches a robobug or micro missile to non-lethally tag him, and the sensor grid throughout the city tracks him, if in itself it doesn't "sting" him without a potent knock-out agent. It certainly sounds like some scifi story where your every move can be tracked ( a Gattica meets Minority Report type scenario...systems are embedded all over the metropolis that can be queued up to track a person's every move). Since it would be very difficult to get the populace to accept being "branded" like cattle with an implanted and traceable ID tag, perhaps instead biomechanical seeker bugs that are programmed to patrol your known routes and pursue your genetic or thermal signature....

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blacksmith RE:anti body armor round 6/22/2004 8:37:58 PM

Is there a problem with suicide by cop? Aside from the wear and tear on cops.

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wkwillis RE:anti body armor round 6/23/2004 2:22:01 AM

The wear and tear on cops is problem enough. Why do they have to make it so dramatic? Why not just jump off a tall building. It spoils the janitor's day, of course, but it doesn't get him investigated and shunned. Cops commit enough crimes we don't have to bust them for ones that they don't commit. Suicide by cop is morally wrong.

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Strangelove Suicide By Cop 6/23/2004 3:27:45 AM

I can't really separate out the "wear and tear on the police officer" from this issue, and I too find it immoral. Besides the w&t issue, which is big, the fact that the suicider must force the officer to bring force to bear means he must apparently be willing to use lethal force on the officer or another. Suicide by these means causes officers to second-guess whether or not the perp is genuine or acting, which degrades officer performance and places themselves and their charges (read, everyone else) in danger. I believe a person has the right to choose to end their own life, but not trick or force another into doing it for them.

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ilpars RE:Suicide By Cop 6/23/2004 3:38:09 AM

Suicide is a sin in many religions. Maybe they are trying to find a loop-hole not to be sinner. Of course trying to fool the God, is a foolish thing to do.

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Strangelove RE:Suicide By Cop 6/23/2004 3:56:19 AM

the insurance company and the surviving family members I think are the more likely targets of the deception, but I agree that suicide by cop would be unlikely to fool a jury, much less an omnicient being.

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Strangelove Guided bullets. How far is it? IT'S HERE! 6/23/2004 4:05:05 AM

The following website from military.com has the skinny on a new lowcost guided missle intended for soft targets ranged 2 miles, which is about twice the effective range sited for the new .408 sniper rounds by ChayTac. They claim you can learn the thing in 15 minutes. link

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doggtag RE:Guided bullets. How far is it? IT'S HERE! 6/23/2004 11:29:19 AM

can we please get a working link for that? thx.,

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ilpars RE:Guided bullets. How far is it? IT'S HERE! 6/23/2004 11:50:04 AM

It is no wonder the link is not working. The link is directing to a hotmail account.

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