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Subject: Warhammer 40k Stuff
ArtyEngineer    1/7/2008 12:45:45 AM
I know we have people on this forum who are familliar with the Universe. My little bro got me the Imperial Infantrymans Uplifting Primer for christmas (Basically the Handbook of the Imperial Guard) its hilarious. Im into 60k probably a little too much for a man of my age but who cares eh!!! Below "hopefully" is a cool tribute to teh Imperial Guard. The sondtrack is awesome. Really fits the mood of this organisation. Im currently reading the Horus Heresy Books as they are released and wondering if anyone else has, is or is planning to. They are pretty good.
 
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ArtyEngineer       1/24/2008 11:37:53 PM

I've just been re-reading Ian Watson's "Inquisition War" books. So very, very dark.

Abnett's books are good but lack a certain darkness. The common people of the Imperium know far too much about the nature of the universe that they inhabit.

Do you think so?  The authors that write within this universe dont seem to be that consistent with regards to what the general populace know about the various "Xenos" races or the nature of the "Great" chaos powers.  I think it was you who described the "Gaunts Ghosts" series as basically 'Sharpe" with lasrifles.  Thats a pretty good analogy.  I agree that Abnett isnt the darkest of the authors however the last few Gaunts Books dealing with the Chaos occupation of Gereon and the liberation effort were pretty dark in parts.  I also like the fact that Abnett will kill off characters that you have become familiar with.  I think "The Armour of Contempt" showed the Imperial Guard in full "Just keep throwing men at the enemy until succes is obtained" mode.
In response to Yimmys earlier comment I would reccommend the "Gaunts Ghosts" series as a good way to "Get Into" the fiction of this universe.  You can get the various story arcs in complete volumes now, well at least here in the US you can.
 
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Zad Fnark       2/26/2008 8:52:01 AM

I'll vouch for the Ghost novels.  Either these or the Eisenhorn series is a good intro to the 40k universe.  I'm hoping The Armour of Contempt shows up in paperback at the store soon, but I'm afraid I'll have to order it.

I shouldn't have gotten too attached to "Try Again" Bragg.

It definitely contrasts with the Ciaphas Cain books, which are a bit more tounge-in-cheek.
Dark Apostle is another good Imperial Guard grinder.
 
Faith and Fire is probably one I won't read again.  I found myself rooting for the heavy by the time I reached the end.

ZF-

 
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flamingknives       2/26/2008 3:48:29 PM
The latest Ravenor book has a fairly dark twist or five.

On the other hand, things happen in many of Abnett's books that would warrant exterminatus. If you compare the recent slew of books to some of the short stories or the older novels ("Deathwing", and especially "The Inquisition War" series.) the older books are much darker. I can concede that Gereon could be considered a special case, but really I would expect any Guard Regiment involved would be killed off as soon as possible, given the level of daemonic incursion. The population would be interned by the Inquisition

Yes, "Sharpe with Lasrifles" was one of mine.
Although it has veered away from that over time. Possibly now it's more like Band of Brothers, but that doesn't quite cover it.

 
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