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Subject: Favorite Military Science Fiction Book
D Masterson    8/31/2002 9:58:17 AM
Let us know what your favorite Military Science Fiction book is.

Personally, Ender's Game is probably my favorite with Starship Troopers a close second. There certainly is a lot of good stuff out there.
 
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andyf    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   6/10/2006 2:07:42 AM
fallen dragon peter f hamilton thats some nice technology- and a good twist
 
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Heorot    ASH: A Secret History by Mary Gentle   8/13/2006 1:13:35 PM
I am rereading this for the umpteenth time. For those who like historical military as well as science fiction, it's a must read. Her's Amazon's review. Mary Gentle's Ash kills her first man when she is eight, and at 20 is an experienced captain of mercenaries in the small wars of the late Middle Ages--but not quite the Middle Ages we know from history. The more scholar Piers Ratcliffe works on the evidence, the more knowledge and recorded history and the rules of evidence crumble under him--this world of Visigoths with ceramic robots and of the religion of the Green Christ is nothing he knows of. Ash hears voices, but not like those of Joan of Arc--voices that give her very specific advice about the winning of battles. Married against her will to a man who despises her, but whom she lusts after; finding that the Visigoth general is her twin; coping with the day-to-day problems of battle and siege and mayhem, Mary Gentle's Ash is a magnificent creation. This long, passionate novel, blending historical fantasy with thoughtful speculative fiction, is as smart about the minutiae of medieval war-making and manners as it is about the wilder reaches of contemporary cosmology.
 
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dll2000    Heinlein   9/29/2007 11:21:48 AM
Read Star Ship Troopers and Moon is a Harsh Mistress.  Both excellent books I had never previously heard of (other than the movie). 
 
Thanks all.
 
 
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Treadgar    Need a new MSF fix   9/29/2007 12:20:52 PM

Not too many books here I haven’t read. I’ve noticed most of them are pretty old. Heinlein and H. Beam Piper? Read ‘em long ago, great books. Many of the books everybody has listed sit dusty on my bookshelf, and I’ve read more than a few more than once, some even three times. So now I’m getting desperate for something new, like something less than ten years old. Please lend a helping hand. Someone mentioned something about near-future space war. I need some of that. Any author names for that?

 

 

Treadgar

 
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Jeff_F_F       9/29/2007 2:14:06 PM

you know how it goes. the winner gets to decide who violated what war crimes statutes.

I thought that was actually pretty realistic. Since the politics are so quasi-European, it seemsed totally natural that all of the other houses went spineless and decided to go along with the accomplished fact when handed a flimsy technicality ("we just nuked the *shield wall* not any other house forces...") rather than stand on principle. Herbert's books are pretty weak from a military angle, IMO but have a lot of awesome politics which is where a lot of other scifi breaks down. The science definitely has been molded to fit the requirements of his story. I tend not to mind it in the context of his stories because the setting is so blatantly scifi/fantasy that expecting hard scientific realities just doesn't seem sensible. Like the fact that all aircraft are ornithopters, without any computers to control the wing motion? How? In my mind that is even more glaring than the shield thing. Shields (all shields in all scifi) are based on purely fictional physics whereas the complexity of wing motion is clearly realized (if not understood). I guess what it comes down to is that you can either suspend disbelief entirely or just MST3K the whole thing.
 
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ngxthree       9/30/2007 10:52:59 AM
The Clone Republic by Steven L. Kent. Though Clone Rogue is better, you'll have to read both books to really get the "feel". For the near-future undersea nuclear warfare, Joe Buff is highly recommended! Dorsai is nice too by the way :)
 
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ens. jack    Hmm.   10/1/2007 9:57:36 AM
My top pick is probably 1632, as mentioned earlier. But later in the series it goes all poly-ticky. So Joe buff's series about the USS Challenger, nuke attack sub is awesom. ww3, germany conquered africa and all that, lots of tactical nukes going off. Besides HG Wells War in the Air aint bad.
 
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dll2000    Treadgar   10/4/2007 9:34:21 PM
Treadgar,
 
I wouldnt classify it as military sci fi, but if you are looking for newer good books to read check out Conn Iggulden's Emperor series and Conquerer series (Roman and Genghis Khan epics).  I really enjoyed them.
 
Excellent historical fiction told in novel form.

Also, in historical fiction - Gates of Fire by Pressfield is pretty good as is most of his work.
 
Also, if you like Tom Clancy, Vince Flynn is very good.   I like him better than Clancy.  Flynn is not Military Sci Fi, but  I'm new to that Genre so dont have a lot recommendations there.
 
I'm reading a huge military sci fi epic called Illium right now.  Found it in the local library.  Its pretty good, but not great. 
 
Also, if you enjoy military sci fi, you should check out a short lived t.v. series on DVD by the name of 'Firefly.'   A great show.
 
 
 
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Treadgar       10/6/2007 9:37:08 AM
Thanks for the reccomendations. Firefly is great! Have the movie Serenity on DVD. It's not like it's hard core scifi, but the characters in the series are well done, very humorous.

Treadgar
 
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ArtyEngineer       10/6/2007 9:26:56 PM
It been mentioned several times further down this thread but I want to stress how good Peter F Hamiltons stuff is.  The "Nights Dawn" series is awesome, as is his standalone novel "Fallen Dragon"
 
Im a HUGE Warhammer 40k fan and there are some very good books set n that universe.  Some terrible ones also though!!!  Im currently reading the series set in the Horus Heresy and so far am very impressed.  And just because they are so Feckin Cool here is a pic of the greatest human soldiers to ever appear in a work of fiction.  Screw the 'Master Chief", Republic Commandos etc  these guys are the ultimate genetically engineered fearless totally indoctrinated warriors of mankind "The Adeptus Astartes" (Space Marines)
 
 
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paul1970       10/12/2007 6:28:26 AM
David Weber.. Honor Harrington series.
need good maths. last couple are too heavy or poor thought through politics though.
 
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TrustButVerify       10/12/2007 10:40:46 AM
My first reaction, whenever this question pops up on the forum, is (of course) Starship Troopers.
But that would be dishonest.
I must confess that I read Ender's Game, cover to cover, over one schoolday. Unfortunately, Orson Card doesn't have the experience to write a really convincing military narrative. But Pournelle's The Mote In God's Eye is everything that a space dreadnought book ought to be, right down to the grizzled old petty officers and the inexperienced midshipmen.
 
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TrustButVerify    1632   10/12/2007 10:54:08 AM
Oh, forgot to add- 1632 gets a big ol' thumbs-up from my corner. You can get it for free from Baen's electronic library and I absolutely loved it. Yes, I'm sure it's riddled with inaccuracies, but it told a glorious story and had the guts to be completely partisan for the American ideal. There's precious little of that stuff these days- it's unfashionable to be a patriot, even worse to be pro-American, and I'm glad to see Eric Flint was willing to wave the flag a little. It's not all McDonalds and Abu Gharib, you know...


 
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Jeff_F_F       10/12/2007 8:03:45 PM
Mote in Gods Eye was certainly one of the best SF books I've ever read. It is one that really defines my idea of what good science fiction even more than it does MSF for me. The high level analysis of managing contact between two alien cultures was fascinating.
 
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dll2000    recommended   11/11/2007 4:12:30 PM
Judging from the publication dates of several of these books there are several people on this board who came of age in 70's or earlier.  I took some of the recommendations and read Ender's Game, Starship Troopers, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Darsai! and The Mote in God's Eye.
 
Its interesting to see the cold war influence and also the strong influence of the fear of the population bomb present in the books. 
 
I thought Ender's Game, Starship Troopers and MISAHM were far superior to Darsai! and Mote in God's Eye.  Darsai! put too much emphasis on genetic predestination and stereotypes to be believable or likeable.  A trader planet, a science planet, a warrior planet, etc.; kind of silly but overall it wasnt a bad book.  Mote in God's Eye had a decent and interesting premise (first contact with aliens set far in the future), but was just flat boring for long stretches.  I found myself skipping several paragraphs and the romance between the Senator's Daughter and the ship captain was both out of place and uninspired.  I dont think team writing makes for a good book in most cases.
 
I'm on a train currently commuting for 3 hours+ a day so any book recommendations are appreciated.
 
 
 
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