Favorite Military Science Fiction Book

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mike_golf RE:Favorite Military-- high crusade & others- eon to mike_golf 8/5/2004 2:32:05 PM

Eon wrote: "Also, I'm just starting Turtledove's latest "American Empire" novel, which just hit the stands. I think this series should be required reading- for all American liberals.:-)" You are absolutely right. A great example of what this country could be like if things had gone just slightly different in our history. Speaking of Turtledove, I also like his "Legion of Videssos" and "WorldWar" series. About Dickson's Dorsai books ......... WHAT!!!! Dorsai and Starship Troopers are the classics. "Tactics of Mistake", by Dickson, is great too. It tells us how the Dorsai came to be. I forgot all about Dominic Flandry, I really enjoyed those years ago, I think I'm going to have to re-read them now.

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eon RE:Favorite Military-- Turtledove & Martin Caidin- eon to mike_golf 8/6/2004 2:46:23 PM

I finished the new Turtledove last night. A bit draggy compared to some of them, but his usual competent job. Although I think the U.S. & UK going to war due to the UK being allied with the CSA is stretching possibility a bit- I can't really picture Churchill being comfortable with an "ally" like Featherston. (Of course, he bit his tongue and tolerated Stalin for four and a half years, so I could be wrong.) Still, not a bad read. As to other MSF, of a "wetter" type, have you ever read any of Martin Caidin's SF novels with a military slant? He covered submarine warfare interestingly in "The Last Fathom" (1969) and "Aquarius Mission" (1984), and took on alternative history in "The Final Countdown" (1981) (His novel was considerably better than the movie), but I personally think his greatest contribution was the near-future proto-technothriller, "Almost Midnight" (1970). In that one, he described the consequences if someone were to hold the U.S. for ransom with stolen nuclear bombs. It reads uncomfortably like some government "crisis studies" around today. Caidin wrote quite a few other similar stories, some trending more towards fantasy than SF, but these are the ones that stick in my head..

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phalanx93 RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book 8/11/2004 2:48:13 PM

Red Storm Rising without a doubt, it is, what I consider, the modern Iliad

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roadrodent RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book 8/12/2004 12:32:46 PM

Starship Troops (Infantry working hard and ALWAYS needed with the "Why We Fight" explaination included) Red Storm Rising (Combined arms, political reasoning, mostly faulty, and more then a little show of luck, good and bad, that plays such an important role in any war.) High Crusade (Low tech infanrty vs ?) Lord Kalvin of Otherwhen (Infantry and cavalry at work under an intelligant leader) Moon is a Harsh Mistress (Revolution done more on a pyhicological level then actual combat.)

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mike_golf Red Storm Rising????? 8/12/2004 5:37:40 PM

And other Tom Clancy books for that matter. What is the deal with people considering these books to be science fiction? They are military/action books, aren't they?

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phalanx93 RE:Red Storm Rising????? 8/13/2004 10:46:08 PM

military science is a valid subject of study includes the entire spectrum of military affairs (tactics, tech, etc.) and so tom clancy as MSF is valid

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mike_golf RE:Red Storm Rising????? 8/13/2004 11:57:19 PM

Phalanx, see my answer in your Red Storm Rising thread. Military science fiction is science fiction with a military focus, a la Jerry Pournelle's Mercenary series, for example. Fiction about military science is not military science fiction. I don't mind discussing techno-thrillers and military/action fiction, like "Red Storm Rising", but there are an amazing number of posts on this board that are incorrectly considering Tom Clancy's books to be military science fiction. It would be like calling Tolkien's books, which are fantasy, science fiction.

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slurm RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book 9/2/2004 3:05:56 PM

Besides the plethora that have been mentioned here already.. Near Future - Walter Jon Williams' 'Hardwired', 'Voice of the Whirlwind' and 'Angel Station', though not hugely Military, there is significant military subject matter. Jerry Pournelle's 'Future History' series. David Brin's 'Uplift War' series.

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mox16 RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book (Greg Bear, etc.) 9/3/2004 10:47:26 AM

I don't think I've seen him mentioned. Greg Bear is one of the best "hard" sci-fi authors out there. Not always pure military but usually at least an underlying part of the story. He does a good job at "near future" sci-fi as well. "Moving Mars" is a great one, revolutionary war between Earth and Mars, lots of interesting tech and politics too. My favorite of his is "Anvil of Stars" about a group of children out to avenge Earth's destruction. Awesome tech as well as moral and ethical issues. Really mind-bending tech like noach... Eon is also a good one, can't remember any others at the moment. Kinda soap opera-ish but when I was in gradeschool I read the entire Robotech/Macross series of books by Jack McKinney. I have every single book in the series stored away. Transformable mecha just rock.

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mike_golf RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book (Greg Bear, etc.) 9/3/2004 7:08:16 PM

mox16 wrote: "Eon is also a good one, can't remember any others at the moment." Not at all military sci fi, but I really enjoyed "Darwin's Radio" too.

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