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Subject: Favorite Military Science Fiction Book
D Masterson    8/31/2002 9:58:17 AM
Let us know what your favorite Military Science Fiction book is.

Personally, Ender's Game is probably my favorite with Starship Troopers a close second. There certainly is a lot of good stuff out there.
 
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DKD    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   9/11/2004 11:52:53 PM
I like John Ringo's "Gust Front" as a favorite for MilSF. It champions a group of people who don't often get recognized in MilSF (combat engineers), has a US setting and good, engaging characters. For the fellow who said he liked H. Beam Piper's "Cosmic Computer" and "Space Viking", I'd recommend checking out his "Uller Uprising" which is a thinly veiled retelling of the Sepoy Mutiny in India. Forstchen's "Lost Regiment" series while it might be entertaining suffers from the logistical impossibilities the bad guys ignore. It's like Forstchen wanted to write a novel(s) in which all the propaganda about Mongol Hordes was taken as true and pit them against an industrial army. David Drake's "Hammer's Slammers" stuff has always been good. -- Morgen Kirby: You know you're in a... Mercedes Lackey book when the animal life around you gives you a dressing-down that you deserve. John Ringo book when you've got weapons and ammo beyond your wildest wet dreams and IT'S NOT ENOUGH. Mike Williamson book when the characters are all double-jointed. David Drake book when the characters hit bottom, decide that digging is too slow, so they blast to make the hole deeper. Eric Flint or Harry Turtledove book when "what if" is what you would rather have learned about in school but are glad not to live with now. David Weber book when the technology is a character. Lois Bujold book when the main characters are tired but continuing on and managing to stay afloat. The results may not be perfect, but it works. Kinda like parenthood ;)
 
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slurm    RE:GURPS Traveller Ground Forces   9/12/2004 3:38:00 AM
In agreement with you there. Douglas Beryy did a really good job on that one didnt he?
 
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Ehran    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book: Frank Herbert? eon to Ehran   9/13/2004 1:28:28 AM
eon i think we are safe from that sort of lunacy. soon as it starts cutting into people's standard of living the enthusiasm will come to a halt other than for the lunatic fringe.
 
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eon    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book: Frank Herbert? eon to Ehran   9/13/2004 9:29:39 AM
I hope you're right. (I was just observing, actually.) The main problem I've always had with Herbert is that most of his technology is (as you stated) a bit beyond "rubber science", verginmg on the totally squirrelly. I seriously doubt any sort of "spice" or other drug will ever permit FTL travel- unless it's one that keeps you too stoned to notice that the warp field is turning you inside out through a five-dimensional tesseract. (Come to think of it, that might be a reasonable precaution for first-time passengers. But not for the flight crew.....).
 
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Ehran    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book: Frank Herbert? eon to Ehran   9/14/2004 12:30:00 PM
chalk it up to the 60's ish expanded consciousness bs. there will always be a certain number of romantics and just plain fools who want to relive the "good ol days" but i am firmly convinced the rest of us like painless dentistry and debit cards. so unless the great Amish plot to rule the world comes to fruition i think we are safe from that "future".
 
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andyf    RE:: Frank Herbert   9/14/2004 1:17:24 PM
I always had a problem with the no nukes bit,, because after he'd gone and banned nukes, it turned out that 'laser -shield interactions' had the same effect. so why ban em? plus of course, what sort of shield is that!! blows not only you up, but your neighbourhood and surrounding environs. daft
 
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eon    RE:: Frank Herbert   9/15/2004 10:44:55 AM
And of course, the Atreides/Fremen faction salvoed the Atreides" "family atomics" to breach the "shield wall" cliffs around Arrakeen. I'd say that prohibition on nukes was about as well-enforced as the UN treaty on chem/bio weapons of 1965- and just as often ignored. "Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say n'more', as Eric Idle put it..
 
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Ehran    RE:: Frank Herbert   9/15/2004 11:56:37 AM
you know how it goes. the winner gets to decide who violated what war crimes statutes.
 
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eon    RE:: Frank Herbert   9/16/2004 9:17:10 AM
And gets to write the history books, too! .
 
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Smurf    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   9/17/2004 2:22:02 AM
Enders Game was pretty damn good. I also liked starship troopers and does Jurrassic Park fit in the Category? That one was good too.
 
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eon    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   9/22/2004 9:42:26 AM
I wouldn't put JP in the MSF category. It's mainly an H.G. Wells-style warning about the dangers of mucking about with genetics (cf. "The Food of the Gods", "Men Like Gods", and most directly comparable, "The Island of Dr. Moreau"). About the only thing resembling MSF in any of the movies (as opposed to the novels) was the great final scene in JP III when 1st MEUSOC came rampaging up the beach to rescue the survivors- and that frickin' dweeb from State who was yelling through a bullhorn (not a smart idea on an island full of pursuit-predator saurians with a raging case o' the munchies.....)..
 
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Ehran    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   9/22/2004 12:08:47 PM
not entirely sure i would want to be charging onto that island armed with a 5.56 popgun. the 50's on the vehicles would have been a great comfort i am sure.
 
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eon    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book-eon to Ehran   9/23/2004 9:18:45 AM
Roger that, Ehran. LVTP-7s with cal. 50s and 40mm AGLs, plus SuperCobras with 20mm, TOWs, and 19-rd 2.75in pods, plus naval fire support up to 127mm seemed to me to be about right under those circumstances. Plus Harriers with Mavericks, of course. :-).
 
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eon    RE:New recommendation- Weapons of Choice by John Birmingham    9/30/2004 9:31:41 AM
As of last evening, I've finished "Weapons of Choice" by John Birmingham. It's an alternate-history/time-travel MSF novel, but very different from the general run (Harry Turtledove, etc.) The overall situation is similar in concept to Eric Flint's "1632" series, and it is the first book in a projected trilogy called "The Axis of Time". (Hint; I suspect the word "Axis" has two meanings here.) I definitely recommend this bok to anyone who like (1) alternate history, (2) WW II naval combat, and/or (3) culture-shock stories. That's al I'll say, I don't want to spoil it for you. Except that if you like David Weber, Eric Flint, or John Ringo, I think you'll like John Birmingham. (P.S. Take a deep breath before you start it- you won't come up for air for a while.).
 
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timoney    RE:Favorite Military Science Fiction Book   11/23/2005 1:09:54 AM
I know this is old, but the Legend of The Jade Phoenix Trilogy are easily the best military sci fi books. They are by Michael Stackpole
 
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