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Subject: Solutions to the rocket attacks from Gaza
phalanx30    3/9/2008 1:57:45 AM
I have my own, its a bit radical but it would certainly work.
What are some other possible choices?

The solution I have come up with is to basically depopulate Gaza and make it part of Israel proper. Now I have no Idea how to get 1.5 million people out of a certain area but I'm sure it could be done. I realize their would be some resistance on the part of the Palestinians and especially Hezbollah, but I'm also sure that resistance could be dealt with as well as the fact that this depopulation would guarantee the security of Israeli citizens living near Gaza, at least in terms of the rocket attacks.
 
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Bob       3/9/2008 3:27:54 AM
As a joke while this page was loading, I told myself to respond with "annex Gaza"

Sadly that seems like the only solution.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       3/9/2008 8:11:40 AM
So where would they go? One one will take them as they would just cause trouble where ever they end up.
 
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timon_phocas    How About the Sinai?    3/9/2008 9:34:19 AM
I know it would only be a temporary solution, but why don't they wander around the Sinai for forty years or so? They could all follow 4 mullahs carrying a box supported by two rods with sacred scriptures in it.Oh wait, that's been done...
 
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battar    Asimov   3/9/2008 11:59:07 AM
I have no idea how to make anti-gravity shields and intergalactic spacecraft but I'm sure it could be done.  That makes about as much sense as Phalanx;s statement that he has no idea how to depopulate Gaza but he is sure it could be done.
 
It didn't occur to him thatthe problem is not that they are firing rockets from Gaza, it is that they are firing rockets. Put them somewhere else, and they will readjust the range of the rockets and off they go
 
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Herald12345    deport them to a place where they can cause trouble.    3/9/2008 12:11:31 PM
But not near you.

How about Iran?

1000 troublemakers , per freighter  1500  freighter loads at $10,000,000 per trip.

Charge $1,000 for the exit visa per troublemaker to recoup the treasury relocation costs.....

Take about two years to deport the lot assuming 1500 trips  using 32  freighters a month. .

This is about the magnitude of the task you face.

Herald
 
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battar    Idaho   3/9/2008 4:24:59 PM
Herald,
             Are you trying to be funny?
Because you are not trying hard enough.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to deport 6 million Israeli Jews to an unused state in the USA, Idaho perhaps, or Vermont?
 
 
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Herald12345    Nevada.   3/9/2008 9:37:39 PM

Herald,

             Are you trying to be funny?

Because you are not trying hard enough.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to deport 6 million Israeli Jews to an unused state in the USA, Idaho perhaps, or Vermont?

 

Yucca mountain.

That is where I would put persistent Human troublemakers along with the other long term half-life problems.

Why do I need to move six million civilized people?

The people in question seem to handle their own problems well enough by themselves. My interference [help?] would be resented and not appreciated-especially as it is totally unnecessary.

By the way I hope you understand that this is a pure Jack Benny  type discussion?


Herald
 
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WarNerd       3/10/2008 6:02:39 AM
Herald12345
But not near you.

How about Iran?

1000 troublemakers , per freighter  1500  freighter loads at $10,000,000 per trip.

Charge $1,000 for the exit visa per troublemaker to recoup the treasury relocation costs.....

Take about two years to deport the lot assuming 1500 trips  using 32  freighters a month. .

This is about the magnitude of the task you face.

Herald


I think you mean $1,000,000 per trip.
 
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Herald12345    Bribes.   3/10/2008 6:14:03 PM

Herald12345

But not near you.

How about Iran?

1000 troublemakers , per freighter  1500  freighter loads at $10,000,000 per trip.

Charge $1,000 for the exit visa per troublemaker to recoup the treasury relocation costs.....

Take about two years to deport the lot assuming 1500 trips  using 32  freighters a month. .

This is about the magnitude of the task you face.

Herald



I think you mean $1,000,000 per trip.


The ayatollahs need the money.

Herald
 
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dogberry       3/10/2008 10:21:12 PM
Wouldn't it be cheaper to drop them in Somalia?
 
Kent
 
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FJV       3/11/2008 3:23:04 PM
Let's start with an international diplomatic and propaganda campaign to untie the hands of the Israeli army in dealing with terror, so that they can at least do something without the world exploding in condemnation.

To be honest, the genius who is responsible for Israel's public relation should be sacked immediately in my opinion. As should be the one responsible for Bush's PR, but that's a different issue.
 
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Herald12345    You'd..............    3/11/2008 5:10:42 PM

Let's start with an international diplomatic and propaganda campaign to untie the hands of the Israeli army in dealing with terror, so that they can at least do something without the world exploding in condemnation.

To be honest, the genius who is responsible for Israel's public relation should be sacked immediately in my opinion. As should be the one responsible for Bush's PR, but that's a different issue.



...............have to undo 2000 years of official Christian and 1400 years of official moslem supported bigotry in the case of  Israel, and for Bush you'd have to replace 80% of the cretins who call themselves reporters just to start the process of repairing the bad publicity.

In the case of the Western bigotry, that also means eliminating the despicable 1% power elite bigots. The other 99% of us are rather decent enough, and would get with the program; if given half a chance.

As for the moslems?  Civilizing the tribal cultures infected with that diseased psychotic superstition will take at least a  another couple of centuries. The MAJORITY of those misguided followers of the hemp smoking child molester are barbarians and are very slow learners.

Herald
 
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FJV     You'd have to cut through the BS   3/12/2008 3:42:09 PM
Actually have to start doing propaganda in the 1st place. Don't take the moral high ground for granted, just because you happen to be right. The real world does not work that way. The majority of the public forms a large part of it's opinion based on what they see on TV. If you're version is not on TV even if you happen to be right then the majority of the public will not form their opinion on what you have to say.

In the case of Bush they cannot gain the moral high ground in public opinion from a dictator that uses rape rooms to rape children in front of their parents. I'm willing to bet that there would be no TV network that would decline an exclusive right to film in Saddams prison that was especially meant for children.That's how criminally negligent their propaganda effort is, especially when you consider that US public opinion is a decisive strategic point of the Iraq war. Succes or defeat in Iraq will for a large part be decided there.

The same with Israel. We all know that palestinian gunmen hide behind stone throwing children. So film them doing that!!!, don't just write about it. Also show the suffering after a terror attack with all it's bloody details. The "If it bleeds it leads" rule of journalism will make sure that it is transmitted. The palestinians are using that trick to the fullest and in my opinion the Israelis should not let the palestinians have the edge in that area. Also the Karina weapons smuggling ship was mismanaged.

It is in my opinion way better to have a propaganda effort in place than to do what amounts to nothing and gripe about how unfair it all is. I can understand that some of the stuff I suggest is not all that morally uplifting, but you just cannot handle crap like palestinian terrorism and not end up with your hands stinking a little.
 
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Herald12345    People who respect the truth.......   3/12/2008 3:52:53 PM
.................find it very hard to LIE.

That is a BIG problem. Even if the honest take the truth and emphasize it for effect they consider exaggeration to be a lie.

Herald
 
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Herald12345    Simple error from a simple mind.   3/12/2008 8:46:24 PM



Herald12345



But not near you.

How about Iran?

1000 troublemakers , per freighter  1500  freighter loads at $10,000,000 per trip.

Charge $1,000 for the exit visa per troublemaker to recoup the treasury relocation costs.....

Take about two years to deport the lot assuming 1500 trips  using 32  freighters a month. .

This is about the magnitude of the task you face.

Herald




I think you mean $1,000,000 per trip.




The ayatollahs need the money.

Herald

Of course that is $1,000,000,00. $1,000 x $1,000=. I may be good  at the physics: but when it comes to the simple stuff  like  2+2=4  I am often a cretin.

Herald
 
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