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Subject: Israelis genetics??
kane    5/15/2007 1:55:59 PM
I know this is a military discussion board but I thought I should ask this
There was a Turkic state in west of Hazar sea called Khazars.These guys were Turkic, they've converted into Judaism with the influence of Jews in the region.
These Turkics later settled in East Europe and as I know mostly these "askenazi" were killed by Hitler.TheY're the founders of Yiddish rgiht?

So does this mean some Jews have Turkic origins?A lot of Jews do not seem like semite either
 
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Shirrush       5/15/2007 2:32:15 PM
I don't know whether the Koozaris were Turkic or not. Theirs is a good story, but this theory that most of the Ashkenazim are descended from them is a lot of revisionistic bunk, and contradicts historical evidence.
Furthermore, I am not aware of any Turkic influence on Yiddish or on other Jewish languages except of course for  modern Hebrew. Yiddish is an Alemanic language contaminated with Hebrew, Ladino (spoken by the Jews of Turkey and the Balkans) is quite correct classical Spanish spiced up with Hebrew words and expression, Esfahani is, well, Iranian, Judeo-Moroccan is basically Berbero-Arab, and so on.
 
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swhitebull       5/15/2007 3:55:40 PM
Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s -  turkish-origin jews indeed!!  Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.
 
swhitebull -  Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).
 
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bsl       5/15/2007 8:41:53 PM
Over three thousand years, people of almost every origin have adopted Judaism at one time or
another.

The Khazar story has a factual basis. There was such a tribe who did adopt Judaism.

However, it was a comparatively small part of the total.

This is a story to approach carefully, because it has become a trope widely used by
modern anti-semites to "prove" that the Jews are not the "real" Jews. You wouldn't
have to do an elaborate google or yahoo search to discover that for yourself.
 
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jastayme3       5/16/2007 3:56:22 AM

Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s - turkish-origin jews indeed!! Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.


swhitebull - Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).



______________________________________________ There is a famous newsphoto just after the conquest of Jerusalem. A row of Israeli soldiers were standing in line. There was one who looked like an Arab and right behind him one who looked like a Scandinavian.
 
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jastayme3       5/16/2007 4:06:12 AM

Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s - turkish-origin jews indeed!! Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.


swhitebull - Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).



_____________________________________________ Really? Now that is interesting. Is there any interesting customs from that? Not buying real-estate in Israel for instance(an obscure Biblical reference that you might or might not get)or having a disproportionate number of rabbis? Or something Levite of that nature?
 
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ingnoway    Hittites   5/19/2007 8:09:58 PM

Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s -  turkish-origin jews indeed!!  Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.

 

swhitebull -  Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).



I noticed that the"Hittites" had small kingdoms in Turkey and a large one, in N Arami(Syria).
I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc.
 
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ingnoway    Hittites   5/19/2007 8:13:18 PM




Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s -  turkish-origin jews indeed!!  Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.



 



swhitebull -  Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).





I noticed that the"Hittites" had small kingdoms in Turkey and a large one, in N Arami(Syria).

I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror." From the eighth
letter=Heth/Kath.
 
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ingnoway    Sarah   5/19/2007 9:08:07 PM
The mother of Yisrael, was a Hitite! Therefore, yisrael's present battle with Arami(Syria), has Hitite all over it.
And Avraham was, an Emorru(Amorite) which is closely related to Shomeron, if I'm not mistaken. And Emorru
means mountain dweller, therefore, Shomer is the name of the city, on the hill in Samaria=Shomeron. So, welcome
to Israel's begining all over again! And the seveyn nations, are being battled and battling again, as in the history
books of miktab(Scripture). Amn
 
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jastayme3       5/19/2007 9:54:25 PM








Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s - turkish-origin jews indeed!! Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.










swhitebull - Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).








I noticed that the"Hittites" had small kingdoms in Turkey and a large one, in N Arami(Syria).



I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror." From the eighth

letter=Heth/Kath.








_________________________________________________________________________________________ "I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror." It's probably a typical chieftain's macho boast. After all no culture is truely respected unless it has proven itself skillful at killing people.
 
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jastayme3       5/19/2007 9:58:03 PM












Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s - turkish-origin jews indeed!! Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.














swhitebull - Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).











I noticed that the"Hittites" had small kingdoms in Turkey and a large one, in N Arami(Syria).





I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror." From the eighth


letter=Heth/Kath.













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"I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror."///////

It's probably a typical chieftain's macho boast. After all no culture is truely respected unless it has proven itself skillful at killing people.


The quote should be separate from the comment. What is it with this thing anyway? I suppose I could use partial quotes instead of quotation marks-this thing does allow partial quotes doesn't it?
 
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ingnoway    ingnoway   5/21/2007 1:06:10 PM
















Adding to the confusion, part of my family emigrated to the United States from east of Astrakhan in the 1880s - turkish-origin jews indeed!! Along with the St Petersburg (Finno-Ugric branch), Kiev, Iasi from Rumania, Warsaw, Praha, and who knows where else.


















swhitebull - Heinz 57 Variety polyglot origins - and ALL Jewish (I'm a Levite, and since we know that's SUPPOSED to passed down the generations from father to son, an unbroken link to the tribe of Levi).














I noticed that the"Hittites" had small kingdoms in Turkey and a large one, in N Arami(Syria).







I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror." From the eighth



letter=Heth/Kath.

















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"I've seen pictures of their, statues and wall writings also, within Turkey etc. But the spooky part is, that their name in eber is"terror."///////



It's probably a typical chieftain's macho boast. After all no culture is truely respected unless it has proven itself skillful at killing people.
Are you saying you posted this? I bet, you have no idea what it's! Why? Because, you would have given a"reply" first! Don't be rude or ignorant, with someone elses experience.







The quote should be separate from the comment. What is it with this thing anyway?

I suppose I could use partial quotes instead of quotation marks-this thing does allow partial quotes doesn't it?
 
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ingnoway    How   5/21/2007 1:28:57 PM
How are Turks Jewish? Only Shem equals Jewishness! Even though Sara was an"Hitite', who is a descedent of Canaan and Ham. And was
Abram's wife etc.
 
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Ezekiel    Thank you Kane   5/21/2007 1:30:52 PM
an absurd thread that doesn't dignify any serious response......
 
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ingnoway    Absurd   5/21/2007 2:29:35 PM
In the sense, that someone duplicated my keys and posted too many times. And two: The content is not absurd, for it's Gospel Truth
according to TORAH.
 
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ingnoway    Ezekiel   5/21/2007 2:32:46 PM

an absurd thread that doesn't dignify any serious response......


Looks like you need to change your ID, then! For your acting contrarywise. And someone is holding down, a shift key
when I post my miktab! And I remember, why he does it!
 
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