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RE:Wabbit Hunting 401 - Palestinian Casualties for Racist DUMMIES
swhitebull
12/8/2004 10:45:17 PM
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| ..Want to compare IDF murder stats vs. Hamas etc. murder stats? Civilian or otherwise? I doubt you would want to. ..
OH, BUT I DO.
And now, my favorite moral equivalence topic - the disparity in casualties. Again, follow the bouncing ball, since you have to get your head out of your ass long enough to rise above your own stench:
This gets tiresome ? and the refutation of charges of the disparity in casualties has been posted many many times on these boards before.
Now it seems your education about the nature of Palestinian casualties is sorely lacking. I intend to rectify that situation by the following:
The hardcore statistics, extremely long and detailed analysis that absolutely slam-dunks the 3:1 claims of Palestinian civilian to israeli deaths, by categorizing them by type and nature of death.
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An article that these appeared in:
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18% of 1,945 Palestinians killed in intifada were innocent civilians, IDF says; 130 were children
By Amos Harel
Some 1,945 Palestinians have been killed since the intifada erupted on September 29, 2000, according to a defense establishment report. These include 365 people (18 percent) who had nothing to do with terrorist activity: 130 (7 percent) children under the age of 16 and 235 (11 percent) adults, many of them women and elderly people.
The casualty figures, which are not published officially, are lower than those compiled by the Palestinian organizations and human rights groups.
According to the report, 441 of those killed were Hamas and Islamic Jihad activists (about 22 percent), 324 were Fatah and Tanzim activists (about 17 percent), 329 were Palestinian Authority security forces (about 17 percent) and 69 (4 percent) were from the Popular Front, Democratic Front, Fatah Abu Mussa and Ahmed Jibril.
Some 22 percent - 417 - of those killed were not identified with any group but were suspected by the security establishment of being involved in terrorism. These include Palestinians killed while carrying out terrorist attacks apparently independently, without acting for any terror organization.
Commenting on the number of children killed, the sources said in some cases they were youths throwing fire bombs. A few children who died were involved in operating firearms. An IDF investigation regarding the death of an 11-year-old boy in Nablus some two months ago indicated the boy was killed when an improvised explosive charge he was about to throw on soldiers, went off in his hands.
In any case, a security source said, "there is no justification for the death of Palestinians under the age of 16, even if they were throwing Molotov tails. These cases require investigation."
The IDF HAS to maintain an accurate count, so as to prevent them from being charged with war crimes, hence the detailed breakdown, as of March 2003.
The bottom line is that the oft-cited 3:1 casualty breakdown is a red-herring to deflect from the fact that the predominating PALI casualties are men between the ages of 16 and 35, those precisely of military age.
IF the casualties attributed to civilian deaths were to follow a normalized distribution curve, among all age cohorts and sexes as the Israeli deaths and casualties follow, WHY THIS PREDOMINANCE AMONG THIS PARTICULAR AGE AND SEX GROUP AMONG THE PALESTINIANS?
Why? because this age group is dominated by Terrorists who either get killed in the act, or are taken out by the israelis, or die in "work-related accidents"
IF THE ISRAELIS WERE KILLING SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF CIVILIANS, then Palestinan deaths MUST statistically follow the same bell curve distribution as ISRAELI deaths.
Also, there sure seems to be a lot of PALIS ALSO killed by their own kind, for "collaborating with the Israelis.
And btw - Where are your statistics on the murders of Palestinians by PALIS, which are included in the above numbers, or Palestinian atrocities of how they mutilate ISraeli bodies when they are kidnapped?? The girls found raped and murdered and mutiliated, or the mens testicles stuffed into their mouths?
So here's the detailed analysis of your "so-called" state sponsored violence, in contrast with PALI violence AIMED DIRECTLY at innocent women and children- most PALI deaths seem to be male Palis between the ages of 17 and 35, oooh just about right for military age combattants to die, righto?
swhitebull - now that you have the ACTUAL article this website based their numbers upon, IS THERE ANYTHING NOW UNCLEAR ABOUT THIS?
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