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Subject: NARRATIVE DISCORD Critiques of Iraq War Reveal Rifts Among Army Officers Colonel's Essay Draws
TXAggie93    6/29/2007 4:21:18 PM
Sorry if this is redundent or already been covered. The article has a lot of good information for discussion. NARRATIVE DISCORD Critiques of Iraq War Reveal Rifts Among Army Officers Colonel's Essay Draws Rebuttal From General; Captains Losing Faith By GREG JAFFE June 29, 2007; Page A1 Last December, Lt. Col. Paul Yingling attended a Purple Heart ceremony for soldiers injured in Iraq. As he watched the wounded troops collect their medals, the 41-year-old officer reflected on his two combat tours in Iraq. He was frustrated at how slowly the Army had adjusted to the demands of guerrilla war, and ashamed he hadn't done more to push for change. By the end of the ceremony, he says, he could barely look the wounded troops in the eyes. Col. Yingling just had been chosen to lead a 540-soldier battalion. "I can't command like this," he recalls thinking. DEBATING IRAQ • The Situation: Officers' critiques of U.S. failures in Iraq are roiling the military. • The Background: Conflicting explanations for what's gone wrong reflect divisions between younger officers and more conservative generals. • The Bottom Line: The debate could shape how the Army looks going forward and sow mistrust in the ranks.He poured his thoughts into a blistering critique of the Army brass, "A Failure in Generalship," published last month in Armed Forces Journal, a nongovernment publication. "America's generals have been checked by a form of war that they did not prepare for and do not understand," his piece argued. (Read the article.1) The essay rocketed around the Army via email. The director of the Army's elite school for war planners scrapped his lesson plan for a day to discuss it. The commanding general at Fort Hood assembled about 200 captains in the chapel of that Texas base and delivered a speech intended to rebut it. "I think [Col. Yingling] was speaking some truths that most of us talk about over beers," says Col. Matthew Moten, a history professor at West Point who also served in Iraq. "Very few of us have the courage or foolhardiness to put them in print." The controversy over Col. Yingling's essay is part of a broader debate within the military over why the Army has struggled in Iraq, what it should look like going forward, and how it should be led. It's a fight being hashed out in the form of what one Pentagon official calls "failure narratives." Some of these explanations for the military's struggles in Iraq come through official channels. Others, like Col. Yingling's, are unofficial and show up in military journals and books. The conflicting theories on Iraq reflect growing divisions within the military along generational lines, pitting young officers, exhausted by multiple Iraq tours and eager for change, against more conservative generals. Army and Air Force officers are also developing their own divergent explanations for Iraq. The Air Force narratives typically suggest the military should in the future avoid manpower-intensive guerrilla wars. Army officers counter that such fights are inevitable. Post-mortems of battlefield failures are nothing new. The Army used Col. Harry Summers's "On Strategy: A Critical Analysis of the Vietnam War" to explain its failure in that war and to chart a future course. Col. Summers blamed the loss on political leaders who hadn't mobilized the country for war and Army officers who hadn't pushed hard enough for an all-out assault on North Vietnam's army and its capital. Instead, the generals had wasted energy battling a guerrilla threat that was just a distraction, he argued. "Summers was immensely influential," says retired Col. Don Snider, a professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. His book buttressed a shift in focus within the Army during the 1970s and 1980s away from preparing for small wars and toward being ready for a conventional fight with the Soviet Army in Europe. The first of the Army's explanations for Iraq was embedded in its new doctrine for fighting insurgencies. That effort was overseen by Gen. David Petraeus, now the top general in Iraq. Written in 2006 by a bevy of active-duty officers, historians and a human-rights advocate, the doctrine criticized the Army for turning away from guerrilla war after Vietnam. "The story of how the Army found itself less than ready to fight an insurgency goes back to the Army's unwillingness to internalize and build upon the lessons of Vietnam," an introduction to the document reads. The Army is learning in Iraq how to fight such wars better, the document says. But its authors, including Gen. Petraeus, worried that the lessons may have come too late -- after the American people had run out of patience. Since then, other officers have weighed in with competing failure narratives. Earlier this year, Maj. Gen. Charles Dunlap, an Air Force officer in the Pentagon with a penchant for stirring up debate, suggested that Gen. Petraeus's narrative missed the point. The U.S. was stru
 
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TXAggie93    Links from the article   6/29/2007 4:29:36 PM
 
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Pseudonym       6/30/2007 1:07:12 PM
"He advocated replacing large numbers of U.S. troops with indigenous forces bolstered by American precision bombs and surveillance planes."

This is the biggest failure of the Bush Administration to date and what should be debated, why did we let this happen.

From what I can see we contributed far too little to the Iraqi military and government standup, we should have done much better there with bigger training cadres.

That was the whole damn point of the war after all.

After watching Afghanistan I thought we knew, but then we all know what happened after that, the inevitable consequence or replacing your small A team with a large number of your regular players...

It has always amazed me how this was never a major Democratic talking point, this is the real **** up of this war.
 
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Ashley-the-man       7/2/2007 4:08:17 AM
 

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It has always amazed me how this was never a major Democratic talking point, this is the real **** up of this war.

 

No new revolutions reported here. The upper brass is always conservative and risk adverse. No different than in civilian bureaucracies.

 

The democrats will not make this a talking point because it goes to a competent strategy and possibly winning the war. They are not about winning the war, only about getting out and inflicting political damage on the republicans. Remember a few months ago when Bill O’Reilly was on the Letterman show and he asked Dave if he wanted the U.S. to win and Dave would not give him an answer. 

 

The democrats can’t come up with a competent strategy because they would have nothing to hold over the republicans. The republicans are perhaps no better because they gave Clinton a hard time over Somalia and the Balkans. 

 

When finding failure and fault about the execution of this war, think about the hundreds of thousands who died in the American Civil War and WWI. Incredible blunders were made before new tactical and strategic systems were developed. 

 

 
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PowerPointRanger    Iraq campaign issue   7/4/2007 8:35:52 AM
The dems might want to think twice about continuing to use the Iraq war as a campaign issue.  They could get away with being monday-morning quarterbacks when they were completely shut out of power.  That is no longer the case.
 
During the 2006 campaign, they complained about the war and promised a secret plan for success--not "cut & run".
Now that they are in power, we've learned that their secret plan for success is: "cut & run".  Who knew politicians running for office would lie?
 
Where it can hurt the dems is that if they do enforce their plan of "cut & run" by refusing to fund the war outright, they will take ownership of the ensuing outcome.  If "cut & run" results in a broader war, increased terrorism, masses of refugees, genocide, and Iranian domination of the region (as is likely), the dems will carry that baggage into the 2008 election.  The alternative for the dems is to continue giving President Bush the funds he needs for the war.  This will leave the radical "cut & run" core of the dem party unhappy.  As Republicans can attest, you do not want to make your core unhappy going into an election.  Already HRC is suffering from this, as BO raked in more campaign cash during the last quarter.
 
The truth becoming rather obvious: the dems have no better alternative to offer.
It's only a matter of time before the voters realize it.
 
As for the lessons of counter-insurgency, we are seeing a rather interesting twist.
 
In Vietnam, the LBJ plan was basically to send in a lot of troops and let US forces do all the fighting.  Nixon reversed that policy and put the burden on the South Vietnamese troops (Vietnamization). 
 
In Iraq, we are seeing a mirror image of policy.  Under Rumsfeld, the policy resembled Vietnamization--a smaller US force, with an emphasis on building up indiginous forces.  Under Gates, we are seeing an effort to use more US troops.  The Gates policy, ironically, should benefit from the Rumsfeld policy in that the larger US force will be supported by a rather large Iraqi force that would not have been there if we had started with the Gates policy.
 
A wost-case scenario for dems would be if the larger US presence succeeds in putting down the insurgency within the next 16 month.  They have campaigned on the Iraq war being unwinnable.  While it's too soon to say if this will happen, the "surge" is clearly having a positive impact.  But I can't imagine this scenario happening without sending a clear message to both Iran and Syria, who have been supporting the insurgency (as well as fighting in Lebanon & the Palestinian Authority).
 
 
 
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Pseudonym       7/4/2007 10:16:58 AM
"Under Rumsfeld, the policy resembled Vietnamization--a smaller US force, with an emphasis on building up indiginous forces."

Unless I am mistaken there was no such policy under Rumsfeld.
 
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shek       7/17/2007 9:59:55 PM
 
As for the lessons of counter-insurgency, we are seeing a rather interesting twist.  In Vietnam, the LBJ plan was basically to send in a lot of troops and let US forces do all the fighting.  Nixon reversed that policy and put the burden on the South Vietnamese troops (Vietnamization).  In Iraq, we are seeing a mirror image of policy.  Under Rumsfeld, the policy resembled Vietnamization--a smaller US force, with an emphasis on building up indiginous forces.  Under Gates, we are seeing an effort to use more US troops.  The Gates policy, ironically, should benefit from the Rumsfeld policy in that the larger US force will be supported by a rather large Iraqi force that would not have been there if we had started with the Gates policy. A wost-case scenario for dems would be if the larger US presence succeeds in putting down the insurgency within the next 16 month.  They have campaigned on the Iraq war being unwinnable.  While it's too soon to say if this will happen, the "surge" is clearly having a positive impact.  But I can't imagine this scenario happening without sending a clear message to both Iran and Syria, who have been supporting the insurgency (as well as fighting in Lebanon & the Palestinian Authority). 

 
I am still not sure why you continue to insist on your revisionist history.  The Rumsfeld plan was to topple and get out.  No building of idigenous forces.  It wasn't until there was a catastrophic failure of the plan to train 40K Iraqi troops a year after the fall of the regime that a somewhat serious plan to train Iraq Security Forces was finally undertaken.  There was no real counterinsurgency plan at this point, just a bet that training ISF was the correct ticket to achieve objectives and get out of Iraq.  During this time, there was NEVER security in Iraq. 
 
My guess is that if we had started with Gates back in 2003, SecDef Gates would have never insisted on failed plan of Rumsfeld, and we wouldn't have disbanded the Iraqi Army or cut down the invasion force to just enough to topple the regime.  Thus, we would have had enough troops to have created a true security environment, and we would have prevented the emasculation of the Sunni identity and creation of hundreds of thousands of idle hands searching for a new identity.  Bottomline, Gates is picking up the pieces left behind by the Rumsfeld DoD.
 
Also, winning the insurgency is but one piece to the puzzle.  The sectarian divide created because of the lack of security in Iraq under Rumsfeld's watch will still have to bridged, and that will be a tough nut to crack in the zero sum game being played by nearly all sides and by rival factions within the sides.  More troops on the ground may be a necessary condition towards trying to crack this nut, but it is nowhere near a sufficient condition. 
 
Lastly, while Iran and Syria have definitely not been helpful for us in Iraq, they are not the primary causal source of unrest, so don't attribute too great a role.
 
 
 
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sentinel28a       7/23/2007 11:11:10 PM
Here's a question: if AQI is on the run in Iraq, and former Sunni insurgents are now working with us to destroy them--which seems to be the case--who replaces the insurgency once AQI is finished off? 
 
If I'm Iran, I've got to be thinking that once America has secured Iraq, they will turn and come after me.  Therefore it is in my best interests to ensure that the US stays tied down in Iraq as long as possible, or at least until Congress pulls out the troops. 
 
Shek, I think Iran is a bigger player in the insurgency than we'd like to believe.  Not to the point that some people insist, perhaps, but it is in their interest that we fail there.  Strategically speaking, they'd be fools not to support the insurgents, or if necessary, create one (i.e. the Mahdi Army). 
 
Dunlap's comments make me nauseous.  I'm sure it's just a coincidence that his plan would allow more funding for Air Force projects than the other branches.  Call me cynical, but this has happened before--witness Symington's attempt to scrap the Navy's carriers in favor of the B-36 in the late forties.  One of Osama's propaganda points is that Americans are afraid to fight below 25,000 feet.  We've disproved this theory, and now he wants to go back to it? 
 
 
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