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Subject: Americans must respect Islam
salaam al-aqaaid    5/13/2004 10:18:35 AM
The outrageous atrocities commited by Americans at the Abu al-Grayyib prison complex speaks to a need for the United States Americans to give sensetivity training to its entire military so that they will no longer offind Muslims with the contemptious use of women as prison guards and unsavery adiction to homosexual pornographies. These things are offinsive to the Muslims community. Have you no shame? You must remove all women and homosexuals from contact with Muslim prisoners. This is offinsive.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Islam must respect America   8/2/2005 6:37:14 PM
I Second that emotion! Who wants to see the crummy old word Europe? It should be auto-banned. Just like we can't talk about ****roaches around here.
 
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appleciderus    RE:Islam must respect America   8/6/2005 3:29:55 PM
Islam would rather die than respect America.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Islam must respect America   8/7/2005 10:43:15 AM
gust 06, 2005 Yep, the hijab does a wonderful job protecting women Julie Burchill SO CERTAIN moderate Muslims are now suggesting that devout women can take off their shrouds and walk free in God’s sunshine. How very magnanimous of them. It turns out that rigging yourself up like a parrot’s cage with the covering on is less to do with flaunting your devilish female charms and thus inflaming bestial male passion, as we were told, than allowing Muslim women to go “unmolested”. So now, if wearing the hijab means women will be molested by us nasty infidels, they can go without. I don’t know which theory is the most rubbish; the first implies that all women in their natural states — ie, when not shrouding the bodies God gave them from head to toe — are sluts, and all men sex-crazed savages. And as for allowing women to go unmolested . . . words fail me. The fact is that most Muslim women who are beaten, raped or killed — as with all women — are beaten, raped and killed by their own husbands, in their own homes, not by slavering strangers up dark alleyways. And on top of that, Muslim women also have to contend with so-called “honour” killings from their male cousins, brothers, sons and fathers. Yep, the hijab really does a great job of protecting them there! Further afield, the word of women in Sharia courts is worth exactly half that of men, even in rape cases. In Iran 9-year-old girls may be hanged — the age is 12 for boys. It’s great how the hijab stops its wearers from being unfairly put upon, innit! Of course the profoundly creepy-sounding Assembly for the Protection of Hijab has rejected Dr Zaki Badawi’s suggestion. And no doubt the usual Western apologists for Islamofascism will now be pointing out with great excitement that “Muslim women choose to wear the veil”. So what! Women choose lots of dumb and wicked things, as men do. Women preside over the genital mutilation of baby girls in many countries. There are women who stay in abusive relationships for decades, and women who exchange passionate correspondence with brutal serial killers. That doesn’t make it big or right. I would like to think that the female Uncle Toms — Aunt Fatimas? — who espouse the half-life of the hijab are far less representative of brave, compassionate Muslim womanhood than the brilliant comic Shazia Mirza, who jokes that the veil comes in very handy for those days when a girl just doesn’t have time to Immac her moustache. Or of Bushra Nasir, the headmistress of an Islamic school in East London, responding to the the findings of a recent YouGov poll that claimed that 32 per cent of British Muslims questioned thought that British society was immoral and sexually decadent, and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end: “If 32 per cent of young Muslim men really do believe that British society is immoral and must be brought to an end, then I ask myself, if they hate it so much, why do they live here?” Muslim women seem blessed with great strength and fortitude, not to mention modesty — a fine quality, so long as it does not become mania or smugness. But what a view Islam has of its own women, and what a sad gap between the genders there seems to be, that some young men consider their female co-religionists such shocking bores that they would rather blow themselves up and die in order to hang out with 72 virgins rather than stay alive and enjoy the pleasures of living, breathing, imperfect female companionship. Looking at it that way, the drunken high-jinks of the lads and lassies of Faliraki doesn’t seem half so bad. Better to die decadent than moribund any day; better to pig out on life than to choose death. And far, far better to feel the sun on your face than live your life in the shadows of some imagined sin.
 
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Pseudonym    RE:Islam must respect America   8/7/2005 6:51:55 PM
"Islam would rather die than respect America." They sure are pushing hard at us to do it too.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Islam must respect America   9/29/2005 11:25:46 PM
http://washingtontimes.com/world/20050929-121303-6619r.htm In his book "Women in Islam," published four years ago, Mr. Mustafa wrote that verbal warnings followed by a period of sexual inactivity could be used to discipline a disobedient wife. If that failed, he argued that, according to Islamic law, beatings could be judiciously administered. "The blows should be concentrated on the hands and feet using a rod that is thin and light so that it does not leave scars or bruises on the body," he wrote.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Americans must respect Islam   11/3/2005 7:58:47 PM
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=2176412005 There's a photo on Michaelsavage.com so that you may show the face of our enemy to your children.
 
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Omar    RE:Americans must respect Islam   11/4/2005 7:47:47 AM
hello People I'm new here and this is my 1st post ..I think they don't respect us coz we don't respect our selves and our religion(Islam)...and of course our damned rulers have been learning the whole world that we don't deserve thier respect ....so if we want to be respected ,we MUST respect our selves first the the others will respect us...I 'm sure God Bless Iraq,God Bless resistance
 
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Galrahn    RE:Americans must respect Islam   11/4/2005 2:50:56 PM
Americans have a hard time respecting a religion that teaches murder. Americans see Islamic communities in America that doesn't have the violence that the Islamic communities in the Middle East do. That second part goes to my point, it has nothing to do with the Islamic religion why Americans don't respect people of the Middle Eastern region, America has Islamic communities and we take pride in it as a culture, because for us, the more diversity the more we validate our system of Freedom is better than everyone else’s. The lack of respect has a lot more to do with the way Americans respond to violent solutions. The news medias in America report the negative, as the news media in the Middle East does as well. From an American perspective, the Middle East is a place where people are involved in violent crimes, violent demonstrations, and violent solutions to complicated problems. The violence label that the Middle East carries is where the disrespect comes from. Notice Saudi Arabia or Jordan. Most Americans don't speak negatively about Saudi Arabia or Jordan. Ever ask yourself why? Despite the reality there are more people in Saudi Arabia that hate America than any other Middle Eastern country, the media never reports violent anti-American activity taking place in Saudi Arabia, and very, very few American contractors who die in Saudi Arabia make the news. The Muslim and US media's have made the mistake of characterizing America's disproval of the Middle East as being religious, but it simply isn't true. Americans don't really care about what religion people practice. America is based on the principles of freedom of religion. Americans care about violence, about people dieing, and the threats to people living. If the Middle Eastern people understood that better, then the respect that could be possible between Americans and those of the Islamic faith would be easier to accomplish.
 
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shek    RE:Americans must respect Islam   11/4/2005 3:44:12 PM
Omar, Welcome to the board. I do have a question: who do you think the Iraqi resistance represents and why? The reason I ask is because the resistance has murdered tens of thousands of Iraqis and is commiting violence against the sovereign Iraqi government.
 
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Pars    RE:Americans must respect Islam - Galrahn   11/4/2005 4:43:09 PM
Help me here. In my small knowledge about Catholics; what a Pope sanctioned is right for Catholics. So considering Crusades and Inquisiton which was sanctioned by Popes in their time; Americans should have hard time respecting Catholic Christianity; if what you have said is true. As they were plainly murders based on religion differances. I might add Crusaders and Inquisition killed thousands of Jews and Muslims just because they were Jews and Muslims (to refresh your memory). In my opinion if there was no clergy in this world; the 3 religion who worshipped the same God would be one religion. And simply I can not really understand the reason of distinction. For example Christian Bogomil Sect and Muslim Bektasi sect much closer to each other then any other sect to their own religion group. But to a Bogomil, you will call Christian; to a Bektasi you will call Muslim. This is absurd. There are many Americans who do not respect a Muslim because he is a Muslim. Because they are told that all Muslims are evil. That is how things started in Nazi Germany, you know. That is the whole problem. America is fighting against a small group of fanatics but some Americans became to see every Muslim as a potential enemy and becoming fanatics.
 
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