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Subject:
How many of the torture pictures are fake?
Blackwood
4/30/2004 9:27:14 PM
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There's questions about the alleged torture pictures being passed around on the internet.
The BOTTOM set of photos on the arab site
link
that are not from
link
are obviously from a porn film and not legit
Their uniform is nothing at all like the Iraqi issue.
They're wearing jungle fatigues in a desert.
The tire props are cheap and look like from a Honda, not a Hummer
They have no indentifying insiginia of any army at all.
Some clothing is too large and ill fitting. (One guy's shirt reaches down to his knees in the third from the bottom photo, which was laughed at by a veteran looking over my soldier here.)
Their shoes are cheap and not military issue.
The women gang raped appear to be hispanic and russian, not iraqi.
But the photos on:
link
are harder to dismiss.
The guy in a hospital gown standing on a box does NOT have wires connected to his testicles, despite the earlier verbal reports.
The man "beaten to death" leaves the question, "beaten by whom"? He's certainly not in a US Army body bag, but appears to be wrapped in saran wrap from some arab deli. He may be a shopkeeper beaten to death by a gang. It definately is out of sequence with the rest of the series.
The series with the woman and hooded naked men appears to be legit, the uniform fatigues correct. But is it a training exercise with American GIs playign Iraqis that later fell into goofing off for the camera?
One man has "Rapeist" written across his buttock. He later appears stacked in a naked pyramid with this same word displayed. He may or may not also be the one miming forced oral sex to another man with a bag also still on his head.
While the guy with glasses has rubber gloves for body excavation, the girl who this exercise seems to be about does not. Her role mostly seems to be not laugh outloud at her crew appearing in the buff. The men pose for the camera and strut their stuff while keeping hooded anonymnousness.
Most importantly, all the men are in a jail cell, outnumbering the army staff 8-2, hooded, but with unobstructed hand usage. You can even see one taking off his hood in boredom in the lower right picture, carefully obscurred by a body in the front. Wouldn't prisoners undergoing a body cavity search usually be in handcuffs, at least until any concealled weapons were cleared?
There unfortunately are no tattoos visible in the pictures released. which would be a sure sign of GIs, not Iraqis. There do appear to be bikini tan lines, but that may be a trick of the pixillation. The prisoners do seem to be much more well fed and exercised than you'd expect of someone who's been in prison for a long time. And they're into American frat boy stunts like stacking in a pyramid for the camera. Arab culture also has a severe taboo about exposing the soles of one's feet that seems to be disregarded here.
Currently, I can't conclusively rule out the link photos as a training exercise, but I can say it's possible. |
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