news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8322901.stm

 

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There has been no final official response from Iran, but a report on Iranian TV quoted a member of Iran's negotiating team saying: "Iran is interested in buying fuel for the Tehran research reactor within the framework of a clear proposal... we are waiting for the other party's constructive and trust-building response."

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said, according to the Lebanese National News Agency: "I cannot say that the situation regarding Iran is very positive.

"Now, meetings are being held in Vienna (the IAEA headquarters). But via the indications we are receiving, matters are not very positive."

Iran's rejection of the deal would come as a disappointment to the US, Russia and France, and it could make the wider negotiation with Iran much more difficult - and the threat of sanctions more likely, says the BBC's Bethany Bell in Vienna.

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4 or 5 years ago I wrote here Iran will get the bomb. You see now today Iran "ignored" the dealine to respond (hopefully submit) to the new deal. There is no need to try and stop Iran (delay maybe). Fact is Iran needs the bomb and I consider it morally wrong to stop Iran from getting the bomb. Iran has a right to nuclear weapons. Are you shocked?

Let me leave this an exercise for you -

 

 Why do you think there exists a valid and legitimate reason for Iran to have a nuclear bomb? (hint its not really anything to do with Israel or US).

What makes you think the amount of subversion against Iran will reduce after Iran gets the bomb?

 

Chances are it's going to get intensified, and it is not funded by the US or Israel.

 

Farsi population is still in illusion that they have a great empire. They don't, and their country is so weak that they are not even third rate power. Their women are selling themselves in the streets of Dubai, and their greatest minds want to leave and seek fortune in Western Europe and North America. They have no right to anything unless they are willing to play the rule book, which Farsi power is not strong enough to malleate it whatsoever.

 

There are two kinds of small countries: the one that is willing to whore in order to get something in return; and the one that always bitch their way out of trouble (and usually get into more trouble). You figure which kind Iran belongs to.

 

The smartest thing that Farsi can do is to disintegrate their little empire and conduct necessary reform. That's not going to happen because they are empire building people. Although people consciously believe in this illusion, subconsciously, they know they are a failing cause. That explains why they fail to reproduce. Just like Europe, it's only a matter of time before Tehran and Isfahan will be Arab cities.

 

There is no such thing as "right" in international affair. There is only strength, power and wealth. Farsi leaders know that very well. It is the very same book that they've played since the time of Darius I. Only fool and puppets subject to propaganda control believe otherwise. Thus, you are wrong about Iran and nuke. They want the nuke and they need the nuke, as the last straw to reverse the pathetic situation of their nation and their race. They are on the way to national suicide. The nuke is merely the Y-junction that leads to the same destination. The smaller Arab countries and their main Arab rivalry are not going to submit to Farsi anymore, and they can get plenty help from almost everybody. So Iranians choose to die in a blaze, and that is their destiny. Before you think they might try, you will see mushroom cloud in San Fransicko.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8327558.stm

 

On what basis can "we" deny Iran the right to develop Nuclear technologies, including weapons?

 

Where do the current powers get off in this approach? A blind eye (and some closet assistance) brought the "bomb" to the Middle East, to a nation who in their limited history has invaded it's neighbours on numerous occassions, and repress a large portion of "their" population.

 

One nation has used atomic weapons in anger, but for over 60 years the rest of the world has been held under a umbrella of fear of the technology...

 

Let these "great" nations make the first steps and reduce (or eliminate) their arsenals before taking the "rightous" path...

What a great moonbatish post you have done.

What would you rather hear? Let Israel start a war that even the mighty US couldn't finish? Sorry but the Neo-Cons have had their time at the table, and look where that got us - into two sandy quagmires... with no sign of a safe exit...

Yet another demonstration of BDS. That only exemplifies your total brain power, and it's inability to think. Apparently you think you still live under Bush.

 

War with Iran is inevitable. Obama will start a war with Iran, after running out of option and another 6 million Jews murdered. However, I'm not sure whether DHS will be able to intercept nuke Jihad before they blow up your arse in one of the liberal metropolises of the US.

 

Probably you indeed want to see 6 million Jews murdered by nuclear attack, Israel wiped out of the map, and the West forced to live in Dhimitude and Sharia Law.

 

And, don't get me start on justification to use atom bombs on Japan. Anything that can end that bloody war with less people die on Allied side is justifiable. Tell the suffering Chinese that they should endure another two years of war, after 3.5 million soldiers lost and 24 million civilians killed, all major cities in rubble and no food to eat. Oh, wait, both my grandmoms lived through that and I grew up listening stories like that. Why don't you shut your mouth up on that and SHOVE IT?

You need to chill out before you change from your yellow colour to a bright face of red...

 

1) I never lived under Bush

2) I never made any comment on the justification for the US use of the bomb - you are quite correct that it can be justified on the potential lives it "saved".

3) what makes you link my comments to the Holocaust, this is highly insulting to those who perished, and to myself - you do not even know my hereditry, let alone my views of Israel.

4) do not accuse me of supporting supporting Sharia law - again, you do not even know my hereditry

5) I don't live in the US

6) if you don't want to hear alternative views, then don't dedicate a thread to the discussion on a open forum.

6) shut my mouth yourself, or you shove it you uninformed wannabe.

 

 

Oh now you're defensive. Where is your proud moonbatish talk? Come get more of those and I will debunk each and everyone of them right in your face. I know your hereditary, and that's called schmuck. You deserve every single insult that I have used so far, and you deserve even more than that. You deny the justification of the US to stop Iranian thugocracy to acquire nuclear weapons, then you are collaborator to Holocaust II. You have no moral whatsoever to criticize the US on the issue for being helper to the evil, and you are so mentally ill that you can't see the real insult to Holocaust victim is to allow the same atrocity to happen again.

 

What alternative view? The kind of speech by Ahmadinejad in UN? Oh that's the kind of "opposing view" that you are promoting. I get it. You are pro-genocidal, anti-American, anti-Israel,  anti-West, anti-freedom type of guy after all! You are the kind of guy who will tell the public to take Nazi view of ethnocentric politics and Japanese view on East Asian co-prosper sphere. I don't need you to feed the kind of bull crap. Save it for yourself and shove it through your anus.

 

So you don't live in the US. Let me guess, you don't happen to live in Tehran, do you? I've heard that Ahmadenejad has Jewish hereditary, and so is Adolf Hitler. Apparently, being whatever hereditary doesn't stop you from being a pro genocidal, anti-American, anti-West, anti-freedom and anti-Israel propagandist of Islamofascist.

as i said before, you need to chill... you have no idea where i am coming from. I am not anti american, anti israeli, anti west, or anti freedom. What i am is anti nuke. so there you go, you can guess from that what nationality i might be, but for sure i am not Iranian. (or maybe you can't because your blinkers restrict your ability to see...)

 

the alternative, if you care to go back and read is nuclear disarmament.

 

so, grow up young one. Learn that alternate views don't need to be arguements, and quit throwing around accusations that have no merit or any sound backing of logic.

 

and please, petty comments like telling me to shove  something into an orifice... well they really make you sound intelligent and open to a discussion... or are these your own personal perversions?

 

Yeah, right. Hiding behind the internet and be ambiguous. That's a real sign of willingness for an intelligent discussion. 

 

All anti-nuke people are idiots. Tell me that how the US, UK, France and India should disband all their nuclear weapons after you convince Kim the Fat and Ugly, Pakistanis and the Chinese to do it first.

I give up Yellichink, there is no point dealing with you... You are looking for a fight when there isn't one, you throw insults around like a peadophile dishes out candy - but cannot reason, nor show any signs of comprehension or understanding.

 

don't waste your time responding, i really don't care.