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Subject: greeks are in denial
Gothic Irishmen    4/20/2005 8:27:54 PM
I think greeks cant take the fact that macedonia actually got independance and recognition by bush. greeks think they can do whatever they want thinking the known world is basically contribute to them. last time i checked it was greeks who destroyed themselves (ancient thebes, athens, sparta)i am just tired of this macedonians are greek stuff (was gonna say something else) so greeks shut up c mon they have independance and theres overwhelming evidence they arnt greeks
 
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Patriotis    RE:greeks are in denial   11/24/2005 7:36:47 AM
About your post Let me tell you the reason why greeks dont want FYROM to be called Macedonia. If we allow FYROM to be named Macedonia we will give Fyrom the opportunity to claim the Greek teritory called Macedonia.It will be our greatest mistake if we allow them do to that. You are miles away from the balcans so you cant have a lot of knowledge about the specific problem. How will it sound to you if a country near yours desides to change its name into a Historical area name of yours? If fyrom citisens were machedonians ok ,but they arent.if they are they should join greece.As you may know macedonians were greeks and their language is greek.fyrom people dont speak greek. And something about the coment''they want thinking the known world is basically contribute to them'' you should know that when greeks were building Parthenon your ancestors were hunging from the trees like monkeys
 
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don-zen    RE:greeks are in denial   12/16/2005 3:12:04 PM
"Let me tell you the reason why greeks dont want FYROM to be called Macedonia. If we allow FYROM to be named Macedonia we will give Fyrom the opportunity to claim the Greek teritory called Macedonia". Dear P. FYROM does not exist. That land was, is and will be allways Macedonia. I do not want to argue, but one smallquestion for you: How big was Greece, pardon (Athens, Sparta, Thebes etc) when the Turks conquered the Balkans, you know your good friends the "Osmanli" to the east of you? As far as the Language when did Greece actualy officialise the language in the country by law. Hint some time between 1975-1980. Check it out. Do you know what Edesa means in Greek? I can tell you what it means in Macedonian. In any case, your Parthenon was not build by the Greeks, by the way. Search deeper in history about 2000 BC. When the Greeks still occupied the northern Iraq. And in any case why are you so afraid of the name Macedonia? Why do you think people say that they are Canadian, Irish, Brithish, German etc? Because they live in those countries. not because they are direct line of the ancestors. You have nothing in common with the Old-greek tribes. You are as much of Slavic as the Macedonians north of you. If you do not believe me why do you need to change the names of the streets, vilages, town etc. in Greece, it's not like the Slavs conquered Greece is it. And if so then would it be right to assume that some soldiers did have an afair with some greek girls and perhaps changed the ethnic structure. And if not than why did you do it, if as you say Macedonians were greeks and we "ALLLL" know that the Greeks were the absolute culture in Europe and everybody else was an idiot, then how come so many towns have slavic names. If you were superior culture, how did you get assimilated by the Slavic barbarians (Assuming that the Macedonians were Greeks). Is in't it the other way? This is how you prove that you are full of "mythology" driven nation. You are actually wors than the "Arians". in your crap. Regards to "illusioned" person. face it you lost again.
 
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FANTASMA       9/20/2006 8:40:05 AM

I think greeks cant take the fact that macedonia actually got independance and recognition by bush. greeks think they can do whatever they want thinking the known world is basically contribute to them. last time i checked it was greeks who destroyed themselves (ancient thebes, athens, sparta)i am just tired of this macedonians are greek stuff (was gonna say something else) so greeks shut up c mon they have independance and theres overwhelming evidence they arnt greeks
You are right..they are not Greeks.. That's why they dont have the right to claim macedonian ethnicity and their history..so you shut up..

 
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steved       3/2/2008 8:38:57 PM
hey man
these people claiming they are Macedonians are Slavs. What do you think, anyone who claims anything its the perfect truth?
There is a huge plan beyond all these thing!My opinion is that Americans wants all that noise, FYROM has nothing to lose and Greece is afraid of a new Kosovo to come up.
I know...why Ireland should have any problem recognizing FYROM as Macedonia?
There is no problem for noone away from Balkans, but its problem for the political stability..

 
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MaknotFYROM       3/3/2008 2:00:44 AM
The Treaty of Bucharest, August 10, 1913 shows that Greece never owned that land they called Macedonia before 1913.
 
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steved       3/3/2008 6:16:33 PM
you shouldnt be so sure
Ancient Greeks were in the lands around Skopja and the old names saying the truth
Have you ever wondered about the origin of the names Pelagonia and Peonia?Its pure Greek!
I dont think its about the esteem of feeling Macedon but its clear diplomacy as the veto Greece is going to use next days.
Imagine Albanians tommorow start claiming they are Romans relatives and name their country Venice!what should italians do?Agree?
i think there is also a misunderstamding here.Alexander the Great conquer a great part of the East right?Are they Macedons?
Because i went to nothern Greece and visited the grave of Phillipus, the capitol of Macedons Pella and Vergina also visited Aiges holy city of these people, and i ask myself how a tribe of greeks who spoke ancient greek, lived not so close to Skopja have other traditions could be fathers to these people...who their origin is Slavic, they have cyrillic alhabet, and before were Jugoslavs!
My friend from FYROM jyst tell me about the maps which include Thesaloniki inside your bounds, what do you believe?
Is this city belongs to you also?I expect everyone who has a serious opinion to answer my post
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Stavros

 
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