Irony of Situation?

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jastayme3 2/14/2007 1:09:51 AM

When there is justice to go to war, and the nation you fight have a culture that overwhelmingly supports and thus props it up, then measures of collective punishment have its place in order to bend the enemies will in order to be victorious. I respect the palestinians enough to make their own choices, so that when they decide upon Hamas, and terror campaigns then they desire this.... though at the same time they must acknowl-edge and bare their responsibility for it. Now the most important point is the justice for entering the conflict in the first place, once set upon war victory becomes the single goal. Fighting the pal-estinians is necessary they have chosen evil path, filled with disgusting moralities. They are one of the most genocidal extremist of all arab populations, if they are not example of a popul-ation that speaks for collective punishment to the max.

Aye more's the pity.

To wax philosophical though, I wonder if God sees the same thing when he looks at the whole human race that we see when we look at the Palestinians.

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Ezekiel 2/14/2007 3:22:01 AM

well I don't see the world name the majority of our streets after people that have walked into coffee shops blowing up woman and children. Taught and indocrtinated by the state in the most perverse forms of anti semitism. That view history purely as a means and not something to actually learn. WHere when offerred peace countless times choose overwhelmingly war. The assumption of no personal/collective responsibility and blame there lack of any sort of moral fiber on an 'occupation" that they choose.

The question I often ask myself is.... why can there exist Israeli Arabs, but the jews had to ethnically cleanse gaza of its Jewish inhabitants. I mean why couldn't the Jews of Gaza just lived as a tolerated minority as the Arabs enjoy in Israel. I think the answer is quite obvious. The palestinian would have torn them to pieces as they did to the synogogues hours after the soldiers left. The point being if those soldiers wouldn't sit and guard these communities in Judea and shomron these places would become judenrein. The palestinians quite simply have shown no reason, no proof they they should be given any trpe of soveriegnty.... They are a genocidal, blood thirsty population, that know only understand the language of violence. A bandit people that make a farce out of truth, that play the propoganda card better then any people on earth on a cultural/collective level that is actually quite amazing....though at the same time pretty scary. Israel- has been successfully demonized in many parts of the world for occupying a l-and that by all historical standard they have an absolute right to. They won it in defensive wars against Jordan (the real palestinian state), and is an enlightened democratic nation that have shown many times over that they govern responsibly. The palestinian society/consciousness was formed from it's very beginning in the50's its sole purpose is to negate a jewish state. There election, overwhelmingly of the jihadist Hamas, shows that they are not interested in statehood but religion, not nationalism but fundamentalism. Israel has every right to do what is necessary to overcome this enemy people. The moral relativism, the cycle of violence is precisely how the arab propoganda wants one to think of the problem. There is no justice, but there is justice, there is a victim/victims there are the agressors, and though the image of the rock against the tank is pretty powerful it is hardly the truth of the situation. It is the palestinians who refuse the hand of peace, it is they that turn to their weopon of terror, it is they that seek to use their weakness as a strength in the propoganda machine.

I for one will not fall into the trap of many era's in decl-aring ignorantly and wrongly to denounce the Jews, this time in this era, I will be one that will refuse the willful ignorance and the prejudice that is seemingly always attached to the Jews. To understand this conflict it demands that one has to go the extra mile then reading just the headlines, one has to learn about Israel and the history and the societies in which we speak of.....if not, then you become the victim of the arab propoganda and become an advocate that in the end trully seeks to eradicate a jewish state, which in my opinion would be a huge catastrophe. The jews have shown that they can do much for the human race in terms of science, culture, religion, philosophy etc. and they are only 60 years old, doing it all with a sword in one hand. Its high time that the people on strat page that advocate pro palestinian position should understand what they are trully advocating, and whom they are putting their allegience with, b/c when it comes to this issue it definitely speaks of one's philosophical temprement and intellectual integrity!

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jastayme3 2/14/2007 3:03:07 PM

To be honest it is unavoidable. The Palestinians national myth is that they are the AntiIsrael.Those who define themselves by their hatred, go a long way to destroying themselves without their enemies help.

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Ezekiel 2/14/2007 3:40:57 PM

agreed!

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Professor Fickle 2/14/2007 6:29:11 PM

Observation

The fall of most Civilizations=
Beware of the 3 “P”
Pissing off Pisssed-off Presents

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Ezekiel 2/25/2007 1:51:30 PM

Here is a great article that explains so much of the European prejudice and almost obsessive pro palestinian bias that one observe in europe today. More to the point.... Why did Europe turn its back on Israel???

www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/why_europe_abandoned_israel_1.html

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