you guys still underestimate our arsenal well do a bit of research not to be rude.

and also havent you herd you thick head defence is the best stratergy what would you prefer to pick the battle groung and stay put of run up and down looking and charging at a wall of fresh untired soldiers your choice but id like to be the defender thanks we greeks have tryed to show you this valuble lesson but you never learn look at thermoply(dont know how to spell it)or the battle of marathon it just proves it and you just cant believe how effective it is to be the defender

The fall of Troy was one short episode in a very very long list of similar episodes. 

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The fall of Troy was one short episode in a very very long list of similar episodes. 

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Ok this is my first time to post one of these on one of these forums and I hope I can bring some light to this argument. I?ve never really posted, I?m more of a reader but after watching how people reacted to the movie 300 my anger for stupidity started boiling and than I read this article and I couldn?t keep my tongue still.

 

So I?m going to give some information about myself because I believe in any argument you need to know who the person spouting all the facts or nonsense is. I hate people who just flame or try to use events in the past to lead the argument into a divided topic that will bring out the forum trolls.

 

I?m 24, a soon to be police officer, Greek-American meaning I was born here but I?m proud to be Greek, and have lived in the United States all my life, mostly in Houston, TX. I have a bachelors of Science from U of H. So now that you know a little about me and that I?m not some crazy person who just trying to flame about whose soccer team kicked whose let me give you some of my criticism across the board.

 

 

http://www.globalfirepower.com... this website gives a fair estimate to the war power of many nations around the world.

 

So I put Greece vs Turkey lets see what happens.

 

http://www.globalfirepower.com...

 

OK hold on before you get all epeen on me and say omgs the checks are more on one side to the other. Because if we did that we are not being fair to the argument that the original question stated, who would win a war in the Balkans Greece or Turkey with out any support from any other nations. This also means that it?s a stand alone fight with what the nation has. It cannot buy anymore supplies nor gain anymore equipment (man power/vechiles/oil?etc)

 

Also lets not forget about this question was stated back about 2 years ago it seems so lets refresh the question.

 

Who would win a total all out war and it cannot buy anymore supplies nor gain anymore equipment (money/man power/vechiles/oil?etc) meaning also it has to self support it self from the day the war started as of today April 3 2008?

 

 

http://www.globalfirepower.com...

I put the chart below so you don?t have to do more than scroll around =D

 

 

bbl = Barrel of Oil (1 bbl = 42 US Gallons or 159 litres)
Value of "0" or "NR" = Not Reported

Greece	Turkey
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Godofgamblers    kosta   4/5/2008 12:30:26 AM Great first post, Kosta! I printed it off to read it.   You seem to indicate that the party in a defensive position would have the best chances. But let's say Turkey thus tried to use the terrain to its advantage by attacking, seizing the mountainous region and then holding that same position.   This would be more realistic than an out and out attempt to take over Greece which would not be accepted by the int'l community. Instead, Turkey could simply take border territory in a mountainous region and then sit on it, using its superior troop numbers to hold it and the Greeks would have to take massive casualties to re-take it.   How do you think such a scenario would play out? Which side has the better/more numerous alpine troops?   thx   Quote    Reply
kane       4/6/2008 12:27:27 PM Well if you mean mountain troops, Turkish army has plenty of them. And experinced guys......just check the operations against PKK.   Quote    Reply
DragonReborn    Greek Gun Ownership   4/7/2008 10:35:33 AM Just out of interest does anyone know what the gun ownership is like in Greece? From what I've read Greece has very strict gun laws so I'm thinking its not high. I heard Switzerlands population is meant to have the highest gun ownership in the world with more than one gun per person! My interest lies in the thought of if Turkey occuplied all or some of Greece how the Greeks in those areas would be able to rebel and fight an insurgency against occupying Turkish Forces. E.g. In Iraq most house holds have access to AKs and other weaponry etc, probably plundered from ex Iraqi ARmy stocks, so it's quite easy for them to fight an insurgency. Does Greece have any way of effectivley fighting an insurgency?   Quote    Reply