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Subject: Estimated Israeli War Losses
mithradates    8/19/2006 12:40:20 AM
I'm not sure if the source for these numbers are reliable because quite frankly both sides of the conflict have been lying through their teeth. But here is the supposed losses suffered by Israel. IDF casualties : 120 soldiers ranked KIA and more than 2000 WIA IDF equipement destroyed or heavily damaged by Hezbollah: 120 Merkava series tanks 30 armored vehicles (APC, armored engineering vehicles...) 1 Saeer 5 ship 1 Saeer 4.5 ship 3 Apache helicopters 1 F16 fighter 1 MK drone
 
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Herc the Merc    Some more rumors and reports    8/22/2006 6:08:24 PM
Anti-Tank weapons included RPG-29, sold to Syria--the advanced ones were sold o China & India--RPG-29S--some of the advanced ones ended up with the Hizzihippies. Other report "Outside one of the town's two mosques a van was found filled with green casings about 6ft long. The serial numbers identified them as AT-5 Spandrel anti-tank missiles. The wire-guided weapon was developed in Russia but Iran began making a copy in 2000. Beyond no-man's land, in the east of the village, was evidence of Syrian-supplied hardware. In a garden next to a junction used as an outpost by Hizbollah lay eight Kornet anti-tank rockets, described by Brig Mickey Edelstein, the commander of the Nahal troops who took Ghandouriyeh, as "some of the best in the world". Written underneath a contract number on each casing were the words: "Customer: Ministry of Defence of Syria. Supplier: KBP, Tula, Russia." Another report http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/18/AR2006081801160.html More from conversation with IDF personnel--- 1. The equipment and training was not maintained for reserves in thelast 2 - 4 years as more resources were put in the Ari Force. they were called in on Saturday and told to report by next morning - 3 day refresher course and off they were to war 2. The amount of missiles that Hezbollah had, threw them off - At one point they felt there were more RPGs and missiles streaking around them then bullets 3. Merkava 2 suffered - Merkava 3 and 4 seemed to do better - but JCage is right - Active defence systems which were cut back for funding purposes will be more actively pursued 4. Many tanks were able to absorb missile hits but than were hit by massive IEDs. Cannot do anything against that. 5. They are certain that Iranians were nearby - Seemed to hear Farsi - \\\\\endiff
 
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Pseudonym    RE:Here's What Happened to the second Saar   8/22/2006 8:40:35 PM
"What was an Austrialian ship doing off the coast of Lebanon and when did Hezbollah get torpedos? It must be that new supersonic torpedo that Iran has." I'm kinda confused by your post, so I'll just point this out in case you weren't being sarcastic, though I think you were. The ship was destroyed in Australian waters as a target, and Hizb'Allah posted it for propaganda.
 
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neutralizer    RE:Here's What Happened to the second Saar   8/23/2006 4:52:04 AM
The Economist reports Israeli KIA as 116, presumably they are named in the Israeli media. Bodgy cas figures are par for the course, given that the 40th anniversary has just passed its useful to rember cas calims their. Aust reported 18 KIA (a claim that cannot be refuted) and 254 VC (including a few NVA) bodies recovered (and the VC normally tried to recover their bodies). Actual VC cas are unknown. VC claimed (on Radios Hanoi and Peking) that Aust cas qwere 500 men KIA and 20 tks dest. There were no tks presnt only M113 and none 'destroyed'. They claimed their own losses were 20 KIA. A possibilility is that claimed Merkava losses are actually AFVs of all types. Incidentally the RAF's Harrier was lost before the RAF Regt deployed to Afg, so they can't be blamed. Since I understnad the loss was from a rkt attack they wouldn't have made any difference. The immutable laws of probability mean that from time to time a rkt will hit inside the bund with an a/c in it and unless you have HAS you'll take a loss. Of course the rockapes might push the patrolled area out beyond rkt range.
 
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Herc the Merc    Very disturbing info- The Barak was not off- the Hanith a legit hit   8/23/2006 2:28:26 PM
DEBKA-Net-Weekly 266 first drew attention to Iran’s heavy EW investment and its successful functioning in the Lebanon War on Aug. 11, 06. This first account will be followed up in the next DNW issue out on Friday, Aug. 25. DEBKAfile on Aug. 23 adds: The American EW experts are interested in four areas. 1. The Israeli EW systems’ failure to block Hizballah’s command and communications and the links between the Lebanese command and the Syria-based Iranian headquarters. 2. How Iranian technicians helped Hizballah eavesdrop on Israel’s communications networks and mobile telephones, including Israeli soldiers’ conversations from inside Lebanon. 3. How Iranian EW installed in Lebanese army coastal radar stations blocked the Barak anti-missile missiles aboard Israeli warships, allowing Hizballah to hit the Israeli corvette Hanith. 4. Why Israeli EW was unable to jam the military systems at the Iranian embassy in Beirut, which hosted the underground war room out of which Hassan Nasrallah and his top commanders, including Imad Mughniyeh, functioned.
 
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Yimmy    RE:Arabs are SEMITES... Perhaps then Anti-Zionists?...   8/23/2006 9:25:50 PM
"Incidentally the RAF's Harrier was lost before the RAF Regt deployed to Afg, so they can't be blamed." Bah! Little things like facts wont stop me from blaming someone!
 
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Massive    RE:Very disturbing info- The Barak was not off- the Hanith a legit hit   8/23/2006 9:54:36 PM
Herc, Blatant carp. Barak was not "blocked" by Iranian supplied EW equipment. The system was in standby mode. Be very careful with DEBKA. Regards, Massive
 
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aceofw    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/24/2006 3:27:41 PM
I donno about those casualties. The Number of KIA's is about right, although sadly, several more were added. IMHO, The IDF figures seems right. The Sa'ar 4.5!? Never heard anything of that sort. The f-16? One crashed during take-off because of broken landing-gears. 3 Apaches? Two of them crashed into one another, and the other mysteriously lost contact and crashed without any appearent enemy fire hitting him, it is persumed an MLRS hit him. 120 Merkava? Depends on your definition of "heavily damaged", and as with the air-crafts not allways because of Hezzbollah. It is true that many were hit, but the majority of times the tank was not penetrated and there was only damage to the armor, some of the times mobility damages. We should probably facture in this some broken threads and stufff because of the rough terrain.
 
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JFD       8/25/2006 10:08:22 AM
Keep in mind that Israel is a democracy with a very active media. So you can't hide KIA or destroyed equipment. Because so many Israelis serve in the military, and often live in imminent danger of attack, the media have a huge incentive to get it right, or be buried by more accurate competition.
 
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