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Subject: Israel vs. Iran in an all-out war
jaythehistorian    8/3/2006 12:24:39 PM
WHY ISRAEL WILL decisively defeat IRAN if there is an all-out war. 1.Israel has more than 200 atomic devices vs Iran which may have 1 soon.Even if Iran bought nuclear devices from other rogue states, the retaliation from Israel would be the equivalent of 2,000 plus hiroshimas. 2.The 200 plus Israeli atomic devices are unstoppable by Iran i.e. up to 80 can be launched by submarines and the rest by ICBM or F-15s or F-16s 3.Israel has the world?s most advanced anti-ICBM missle umbrella which may be impenetrable by Iranian Shahib missles . Iran can only deliver their 1-2 atomic warheads by ICBMs with no other delivery capabilities. 4.Israel has a satellite system with multiple types of spy satellites which have reached the limit of possible resolution (defraction limit) generally thought to be about 10 centimeters and their satellite system is all weather. Together with their advanced UAV capabilities , this allows Israel to possess the most detailed photos and real-time imaging of all Iranian military installations . 5.The military technologic difference between Israel and Iran is wide. Israel has about 10% of the world-wide arms export market which based solely on merit and immensely competitive. IF anything, it is nothing short of a miracle and a tremendous tribute to Israel (jewish ) expertise that they sell to so many countries which never take the side of Israel in any dispute. There are those ,who imply much of Israel?s technological edge is due to massive American aid. However, that aid also has restrained the development of Israeli military technology. American military contractors regularly and understandably, attempt to undermine Israeli sale of military technology when it is in direct competition with American contractors? efforts to sell abroad. Israel might have double the foreign military technologic sales if the US had never blanketly prohibited Israel selling directly to PRC. This is understandable. Iran sells nothing in world wide arms market. Their highly publicized Shahib 3 missle is nothing but a supped up version of the the 63 year old V2 Nazi ballistic missle. Israel supplies Israeli-developed military technology to most of the world?s top militaries including the USA, India, and China. China's J10 fighter is thought to be modeled on Israel?s Lavi.,the Israeli developed Jet fight. In terms of MBTs, Israel possesses 1500 consisting entirely of the modern highly regarded Merkava. Iran has approx. 500 all obsolete models including the T 72. In front-line aircraft Israel has approximately 800 with more than 500 being upgraded F15s and F16s. Israel also possesses in air refueling capabilities. Iran has about 250 front-line combat aircraft consisting mostly of obsolete older US and Russian fighters. It has no known in air refueling capability. Israel also is way ahead in production and use of UAVs and sells various models to many countries including Great Britain. There are other areas of military technology Israel is far more advanced than Iran.
 
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jgarbuz    If only Israel had followed my advice   4/26/2010 12:18:18 AM
For well over ten years I have argued on various forums and blogs that Israel should have nuked Iran
a long time ago, and that if it failed to do so, it would be destroyed first. If I were in charge. 50 Jericho IIs
would be destroying Iran as a nation state by the time I finish this comment. With nukes, if you don't use 'em
 you eventually lose 'em. The Muslim states scoff at Israel because it hasn't used them already after having them
for well over 40 years. They respect and kneel only to power. Now, regardless of what ISrael does, it will
suffer huge casualties in any case, probably one or two million dead regardless. If it does nothing, it will be purely
 a historical footnote.
Mind you, I love the Iranian people, but they will never overturn this regime. It's too late. It has to be destroyed
like Nazi Germany and Japan, or actually worse. This regime will never quit. It has to be burned out of
existence by hellfire. But now Israel will pay a massive price which it could have been spared had it listened to
no one but people like me who believe only in power.
 
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Mikko    What just happened?   4/26/2010 9:57:31 AM

We have revoked this asswipe's posting privileges several times- and he keeps on coming back with new email addresses like a bad Rial.

He has repeatedly posted virulently anti-Semitic nonsense, and his IP addresses will be reported to the appropriate authorities. As our regular posters know, this is a PRIVATE board, and such postings as his will not be tolerated.

If he reappears, since we cant always be monotiring 24/7, please notify us and his latest repulsive incarnation will be similarly dealt with.

Since this slug is in blatant violation of our rules of use, we feel under no obligation to protect his privacy, since he has no right to it.He can be contacted directly at :






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Did I get this right? SYSOPS can publish e-mail -addresses just like that? Is this a joke or something?
 
I understand anti-semitism doesn't get one far on SP and I am first to support the banning of such a moron... but at least for me my e-mail address contains my actual name.
 
Believe it or not, I have other roles in life too than posting with my first name on SP; some of which require a degree of political correctness and restraint in expression of opinions.
 
It is unimaginable to essentially have my name published here just because I might have a twisted opinion on something.
 
So SYSOPS, what are the limits in which my identity remains safe? Am I allowed to spill my leftist dreams or utopian liberal views (as some have accused me of) without running the risks of being personalized? Draw the line please. I didn't think doing something like that was possible. Yes to banning and reporting to authorities, a huge no to revealing e-mail addresses to the public.
 
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warpig       4/26/2010 10:59:42 AM
I'd guess a sufficient answer would be to read the Rules of Use.  While that may still leave you with a not-completely-comfortable feeling, I have got to figure that, based on your substantial past posting history, your anonymity is safe.
 
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Mikko       4/26/2010 11:44:47 AM

I'd guess a sufficient answer would be to read the Rules of Use.  While that may still leave you with a not-completely-comfortable feeling, I have got to figure that, based on your substantial past posting history, your anonymity is safe.

The Rules I did read when I logged in and nothing in them proposed my digital fingerprint could be endangered.
 
Yes, well, I do believe SYSOPS aren't raving lunatics, but normal and predictable people who get tired as does everyone else if you yank their chains long enough. However something in me shouts that it is quite wrong to start revealing identities and contact info, no matter how much of a sick f**k the poster in question might have been. Actions like that might have very serious impact on person's "real life" - not something you can say of just about anything one can post here.
 
Sorry for making noise of something like this. Moving on... 
 
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Shihab    Strength never calculated by gained weapon   11/21/2011 3:31:38 PM

Brother never threat any state or a nation or even a person.Because only the almighty Allah is the survivor of all the creature of the entire world but not Israel.I assume that you have forgotten the lesson of the Jesus Christ.He never threatened any nation but he was suppressed by the Jews.Actually the present ruler of Israel are not on the path of Jesus.They are following the path of the murderer as they shot canon & air strike against the Gaza civilians.As you know according the Newton's gravitation 3rd rules "Every action has it's same & opposite reaction". One day their crime must be ceased as the God himself fore-tells in the holy Bible- " Make Bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes (Iran): for his device is against Babylon(USA),to destroy it because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his Temple. Jeremiah 51:11 "Israel will be disappear from the Map"The comment was obviously not quoted by Ahmedinejad but by God himself. Please come to the path of peace.Jesus was always on the side of peace but not of destruction.
 
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Shihab    Israel must be disappear for it's crime   11/21/2011 3:56:57 PM

I laugh to your comment:
"WHY ISRAEL WILL decisively defeat IRAN if there is an all-out war.
1.Israel has more than 200 atomic devices vs Iran which may have 1 soon.Even if Iran bought nuclear devices from other rogue states, the retaliation from Israel would be the equivalent of 2,000 plus hiroshimas.
2.The 200 plus Israeli atomic devices ".....
 
Iran not only upgrading it's attacking military capability but also upgraded it's revolutionary guard according to the pace of the state necessity.Most positive era is that every prediction of the religious book including Bible is on behalf of the Iranian Nations.So, why they will be afraid. The Iranian nations are holding the mentality of unity which must bring win in any disaster situation.
 
Again, I remind you   " 

Never threat any state or a nation or even a person.Because only the almighty Allah is the survivor of all the creature of the entire world but not Israel.I assume that you have forgotten the lesson of the Jesus Christ.He never threatened any nation but he was suppressed by the Jews.Actually the present ruler of Israel are not on the path of Jesus.They are following the path of the murderer as they shot canon & air strike against the Gaza civilians.As you know according the Newton's gravitation 3rd rules "Every action has it's same & opposite reaction". One day their crime must be ceased as the God himself fore-tells in the holy Bible- " Make Bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes (Iran): for his device is against Babylon(USA),to destroy it because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his Temple. Jeremiah 51:11

"Israel will be disappear from the Map"The comment was obviously not quoted by Ahmedinejad but by God himself. Please come to the path of peace.Jesus was always on the side of peace but not of destruction.
 
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Shihab    Israel must be disappear for it's crime   11/21/2011 4:00:13 PM

I laugh to your comment:
"WHY ISRAEL WILL decisively defeat IRAN if there is an all-out war.
1.Israel has more than 200 atomic devices vs Iran which may have 1 soon.Even if Iran bought nuclear devices from other rogue states, the retaliation from Israel would be the equivalent of 2,000 plus hiroshimas.
2.The 200 plus Israeli atomic devices ".....
 
Iran not only upgrading it's attacking military capability but also upgraded it's revolutionary guard according to the pace of the state necessity.Most positive era is that every prediction of the religious book including Bible is on behalf of the Iranian Nations.So, why they will be afraid. The Iranian nations are holding the mentality of unity which must bring win in any disaster situation.
 
Again, I remind you   " 

Never threat any state or a nation or even a person.Because only the almighty Allah is the survivor of all the creature of the entire world but not Israel.I assume that you have forgotten the lesson of the Jesus Christ.He never threatened any nation but he was suppressed by the Jews.Actually the present ruler of Israel are not on the path of Jesus.They are following the path of the murderer as they shot canon & air strike against the Gaza civilians.As you know according the Newton's gravitation 3rd rules "Every action has it's same & opposite reaction". One day their crime must be ceased as the God himself fore-tells in the holy Bible- " Make Bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes (Iran): for his device is against Babylon(USA),to destroy it because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his Temple. Jeremiah 51:11

"Israel will be disappear from the Map"The comment was obviously not quoted by Ahmedinejad but by God himself. Please come to the path of peace.Jesus was always on the side of peace but not of destruction.
 
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jaythehistorian       1/12/2012 1:04:40 AM
First I want to give my opinion that you do sound mentally ill. So I am probably wasting my time.
 
"Iran not only upgrading it's attacking military capability but also upgraded it's revolutionary guard according to the pace of the state necessity.Most positive era is that every prediction of the religious book including Bible is on behalf of the Iranian Nations.So, why they will be afraid. The Iranian nations are holding the mentality of unity which must bring win in any disaster situation." . The only coherent point is Iran will win because they upgraded it's revolutionary guard. LMAO . Israel's military is much better equipped , better trained, and more experienced . They are one of the top 5 world leaders in military technology while Iran can only buy technology. Iran is much more backwards in the area of high tech. Israel is the most advanced nations in producing cutting edge UAV along with the US. The only way the two militaries would directly meet is if Iran somehow pass through Iraq and Syria. In cyberwarfare,  does Stuxnet sound familiar.? Could Iran produced anything close to Stuxnet? Can any nation besides Israel ( and the US )  produce a stuxnet type cyber weapon. Even though the Mossad isn't as sharp as in the past, there have been so many Iranian nuclear scientists killed , they are having trouble finding enough scientists. I believe the Mossad isn't picking off Iranian scientists without some assistance . Iran would have difficult getting their ballistic missiles through Arrow 2 and 3. Israelis would love to get a chance to shut up the insane Hitler wannabe President of Iran permanently. The only advantage Iran had over Israel ; it's massive wealth from oil and natural gas. Now Israel has large gas fields of their own and enough shale oil to much the reserves of Saudi Arabia.
 
Again, I remind you   " 

Never threat any state or a nation or even a person.Because only the almighty Allah is the survivor of all the creature of the entire world but not Israel.I assume that you have forgotten the lesson of the Jesus Christ.He never threatened any nation but he was suppressed by the Jews.Actually the present ruler of Israel are not on the path of Jesus.They are following the path of the murderer as they shot canon & air strike against the Gaza civilians.As you know according the Newton's gravitation 3rd rules "Every action has it's same & opposite reaction". One day their crime must be ceased as the God himself fore-tells in the holy Bible- " Make Bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes (Iran): for his device is against Babylon(USA),to destroy it because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his Temple. Jeremiah 51:11

"Israel will be disappear from the Map"The comment was obviously not quoted by Ahmedinejad but by God himself. Please come to the path of peace.Jesus was always on the side of peace but not of destruction.
 
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