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smitty237 RE:STBrenco 3/27/2006 2:21:50 AM

Sorry. That should read "lever that swung underneath"

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buzzard RE:Something Different 3/27/2006 10:01:50 AM

I'd have to mention the Krag rifle which was fielded in the Spanish American War. A pretty enough rifle, but it was underpowered and had a completely asinine reloading method. It was obsolete the day it was fielded, and we were completely outgunned by the Spanish (who were fielding Mausers) owing to this rifle. I believe the only thing which saved out bacon was some enterprising officer digging up and old gattling gun for employment. The Army brass actually chose the Krag design because it reloaded slowly. They believed this would conserve ammo and caused shots to be more carefully aimed. Another notable dog would have to be the Grant/Lee tank. The fact that the Sherman was described as the Ronson was laughable in the face of this piece of dreck. Under armored, and with it's main gun fixed in the turret, thus was state of the art to well before the war even started. Also it was of a rivetted construction where upon being hit in a glancing blow which should have be survivable, in many cases the rivets on the inside facing of the armor would spall off making shrapnel in the inside of the tank. Truthfully in much U.S. Army kit from W.W. II (other than the Garand) you can make a strong case that we only won because we made enough to piss it away in huge quantity. buzzard

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stbretnco Mea Culpa 3/27/2006 9:03:13 PM

My mistake on the potato digger, I got my machine gun nicknames mixed up. It doesn't change the fact that the chauchat was a miserable failure.

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Bluewings RE:Mea Culpa 3/27/2006 9:34:05 PM

The Chauchat . Personaly , I always hated the AA-52 . Sh*t heavy , always jammed , not very accurate ... basically a nightmare to use , but when it works it can cut a Jeep in half . link Cheers .

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GOP RE:Mea Culpa - BW 3/27/2006 10:05:37 PM

>>The Chauchat . Personaly , I always hated the AA-52 . Sh*t heavy , always jammed , not very accurate ... basically a nightmare to use , but when it works it can cut a Jeep in half . link Cheers .<< Sorry Frenchie, you are wrong...our weapon (the M16A1) is the worst. You Europeans are so biased :)

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ArtyEngineer RE:Mea Culpa - BW - GOP 3/27/2006 11:33:52 PM

Thats the spirit GOP ;)

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stbretnco RE:Mea Culpa - BW - GOP 3/27/2006 11:37:11 PM

Just as an example of how ill recieved the first gen SINCGARS radios were, when I give a class to troops now on radios, and the pic of that POS comes up, I tell the class "If you ever see one of these, grab a thermite grenade complete with the can the grenade comes in. Take the grenade, pull pin, set on radio, and use the 2 halves of the can with some string. It works better."

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DropBear Mirage1110 3/28/2006 6:35:57 AM

Lemon par excellence.

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Spent Case RE:Something Different - Ehran 3/28/2006 7:34:45 AM

For a while, the bolt in the Ross was such that if it wasn't assembled correctly, you could chamber a round without the locking lugs engaging. I think later versions fixed that little flaw. My dad bought one last year. Shoots nice, as long as you're on a nice neat shooting range. SC-

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Shirrush RE:Something Different 3/28/2006 8:39:50 AM

The M-462 Abir truck. Butt-ugly, and unsafe at any speed. It has also been used to prove that, a) our IDF drivers are a lot better than previously thought, and that b), God exists, and rides the Abir's front bench right besides the former, or none of us Izzies would be able to post here. There's nothing basically wrong with the M16A1. We hated it mainly for it's hitchiking-adverse length, but the MaKNa"K (Hebe acronym for "Anti-Nothing Nothing Rod) never gave us any real reason to badmouth it. Occasionally, it would jam for some stupid geological, or pedological reason, but an IDF soldier always has a MAG (GPMG, MAG-58, M-240) nearby he can grab in case of real need.

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