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Subject:
RE: Somme 1916-FS
french stratege
7/2/2005 2:57:29 PM
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ww.crf-usa.org/bria/bria17_3.htm
This is the most precise (US article )account of French mutinies in 1917.
Any account insists that mutinied soldiers were refused to attack but stayed in trenches to defend in case of German attack.
On Petain and muntinies:
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link on mutinies cause
French governement offical number disclosed:
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These are executions following martial court trials.No exact figure is still available for decimation.
Mutinies/cowardice in WW1 British army: the official account of execution is 343 in British army so close of French number if we take in account the numbers ratio of men who have foughts in French army to British army
On reprisals:
Alistair Horne, The Price of Glory, page 323
"To this day, nearly half a century on (the book was written in 1962) details of the French Mutinies remain veiled in exceptional mystery and secrecy, an d of no aspect is less known than the true extent of the reprisals carried out in quelling them. (Field Marshall Sir Douglas)Haig, in his diaries of November 1917, notes that he had been told that 'there were 30,000 "rebels" that had to be dealt with'. Only a few dozen of the ringleaders were officially reported tried and shot, but how many more were shot summarily can only be guessed. From time to time accounts have seeped out, unofficially, of whole units marched to quiet sectors and then deliberately haché by their own artillery. What is known is that the wretched Russian Division in France, which news of the revolution at home and brutal losses under (General Robert) Nivelle had reduced to a state of complete rebellion, was encircled by loyal French and then cruched by point-blank cannonfire.
haché is the French word for ground meat."
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(To say that British comments are different from one an other)
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A book:
Paths of Glory
The French Army, 1914-18
Anthony Clayton
World War I from the French point of view: the first ever account in English
Detailled comments on the book:
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Still a sensible subject in France convert by secrecy on the pushisment extend.
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