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Subject: Battle of Arausio
Roman    3/16/2005 2:00:38 AM
I just saw a documentary on the History Channel on Ceasar's exploits in Gaul, and although not directly related the Battle of Arausio was mentioned which took place between the Romans and the Germanic tribes Cimbri and Teutons. According to the documentary the Romans lost 85,000 troops dead in this battle. I read up on it further and Wikipedia mentions that the Romans lost up to 80,000 troops and a total of about 112,000 men killed if one includes various support people. The battle took place on October 6th. Surely, this must be the greatest loss ever on a single day - beating even the loss at the Battle of Canae.
 
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Roman    RE:The Battle of Orange (Arausio)   4/3/2005 10:22:29 PM
I suppose it could be - I do not know enough about ancient history to tell, but internet sources seem to claim that the Battle of Noreia happened in 113 BC and the Battle of Arausio happened in 105 BC. That means there are 8 years between the Battle of Noreia and the Battle of Arausio. I think that 8 years would give the Romans enough time to either reconstitute the old army or raise another one for Capeio (if it is actually him who was at Noreia - I do not know that).
 
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boris the romanian    RE:The Battle of Orange (Arausio)   4/4/2005 11:46:45 PM
"Battle of Noreia happened in 113 BC" Err........the Battle of Noreia was the first major engagement between the Germanic horde and the Roman army, in 106 BC. Their defeat left the barbarians free to ravage Noricum. They proceeded into southern Gaul, and to Arausio...
 
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boris the romanian    RE:The Battle of Orange (Arausio)   4/4/2005 11:48:40 PM
I've seen the internet sources as well, and they do state 113 BC, but I'm pretty sure the battle was in 106 BC.
 
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Roman    RE:The Battle of Orange (Arausio)   4/5/2005 12:02:54 AM
I would trust you on the date more than a single internet source, but the fact is that all internet sources I found (I checked at least 5 or more sources), including outlines for university courses, state that the Battle of Noreia happened in 113 BC, while Battle of Arausio happened in 105 BC - a space of 8 years in between them. Also, they state that the defeated Roman forces at Noreia were led by Cn Carbo. The leaders of the two armies at Arausio were Caepio and Mallius. Hence, Caepio was not the one leading Roman forces at Noreia.
 
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