Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound

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Sam RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/15/2003 5:29:40 AM

Justify your picks. Of the 40 odd countries with a Marine Corps, you only picked the top 4 ?

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DragonReborn RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/15/2003 7:19:10 AM

I can tell you why the RM are the best, and internationally recognised as so 1. Royal Marines (uk) These are a relitively small elite commando unit. Their physical recruitment standards are thus very high, and they have the highest standards and longest basic training of any world force. They are trained in all climate and terrins across the world. They also have a huge amount of combat experience. I dont know enough about any other marine forces to rank them. I know most European marines are very good, Esp Dutch who train reg with the RM. The Americans are obviously very good, although there large size (comparitive to other marine forces, and there encompassment into Armour and Airframes, dilutes the standard of troops). However the fact the the USMC is in essence its own autonomous army, makes it the most powerful and versitile marine force in the world. Also worth notable mention and def should have a place in the Top 3 are the Marines of South Korea ROK. These also are elite commandos and their reputation is truely feircesome! I appeal to those more knowlegdeable to elaborate.

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Spoiler RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/15/2003 8:39:39 AM

I was going to put the ROK but I couldn't find much modern info on them. I only put 4 because I know these the best and consider them to be very good units. I put them in that order for the same reason as dragonreborn stated. If you want to know why I put the French above the USMC it's because they have an excellent commando force as well as airborne and others. What's your opinion Sam?

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Sam RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/18/2003 9:06:01 AM

I don't think there is a answer to the question. What is the baseline for grading? Marine Corps, unlike the army, all have different mission/focus depending on the country. What mission shall we use? During the cold war the RMs focus was on Norway. As was the US 2d MarDiv. Want a cold weather raid force then none better than the RMs. Want a antiterrorism force that uses amphibous assault in a tropical mountain environment. See the Phillipino Marines. Want hard corps fierce intelligent killers. South Korean Marines. Min requirements for enlistedmen is an associates degree and 20/20 vision to list only 2. Masters at hand to hand. Very good Marine Corps in south america. Better at small craft ops than anyone. Combined arms amphibious assault has to go to the USMC. The only time I will bash a french unit. They are a Marine Corps in name only. Its part of the army and not very well trained. I could keep going but I think you get the point.

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cerbere RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/31/2003 6:23:15 PM

Sam sorry to tell you that the french marines infantery a better than what you are thinking first the name of marines is coming from the fact that this unit was based on boat only before and now they do and get trained for any kind of theater... you got 4 month for basic training, completed by 2 month of specialities training(if you got a brain for)after that you ll likely go to africa, south america, or pacific, there you ll learn the country and it s own commando training, each regiment of marines units do at least 4 month in africa a year(paratrooper and foreign legion included)when you say not well trained, i m sure you talk by experience isn t it ?? You said:"Combined arms amphibious assault has to go to the USMC." damn right french marine corps do the same it s been only since 400 years they do that ...fighting in every theater sorry to go against you but they are better trained than the USMC longer and better ... at least their troop are trained for urban warfare and are very effective at it (not unlike US army in Irak)i think next time before you want to play another pro US-UK army you should get your infos better than what you did ... and I talk from experience i was in french marines for sometimes and i finish my career in foreign legions i did a lot with the marines corps in Hawaii and then i can say one thing when training them on our commando training ... that was a good laugh ... enjoy

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Sam RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 10/31/2003 11:23:46 PM

So give me some examples of post WW2 FMC amphibous operations. There are some good FMC units but they are Army units. 1st RPIMa is a fine unit. But, regardless of the name, it isn't a "Marine" unit. Please explain how a unit that was formed from the WW2 French SAS, and shares the British SAS motto can be a Marine unit? Using this logic, I can include any Army unit from D-Day as "Marines". Especially the 101st,since they deployed to Haiti on a aircraft carrier. When the FMC conducts a combined arms amphibous assault, which of the French Navys 4 amphibous ships do you use? What type of planes do the FMC have? Just wondering. Maybe you should read up on the USMC and urban warfare. 3 block war, Urban warrior, that stuff. Where have the French been sucessful in urban ops? Where has the FMC fought after Bir Hakeim? The term "Former" colony or territory does not infer victory.

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StymiestxBlitz RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 11/1/2003 9:50:53 AM

The FMC can not even compare to the USMC. Their is no other western army in the world right now with as much experience as the American Armed Forces. Grenada, Panama, Haiti, Gulf War 1 and 2, Afghanistan. The thing thats diff from the french units and the american units on paper is your units look good on paper but you have no actual experience to back up the bull you throw out of your mouth. The single reason why I believe the USMC is superior to all these units is its sheer size. It has the capacity to reach anywhere in the world at any place and kikc the crap out of anyone. It is not merely an elite commando unit is an Army in itself. I mean for godsakes how could you even rank the FMC over the USMC. The USMC has over 170,000 active personnel making it superior to any other marine corps in the world.

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RM-Nod RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 11/1/2003 4:53:09 PM

"Their is no other western army in the world right now with as much experience as the American Armed Forces. Grenada, Panama, Haiti, Gulf War 1 and 2, Afghanistan." The US is not the most experienced army in the western world, your just making that up. The number of examples you give is miniscule compared with some others. "The single reason why I believe the USMC is superior to all these units is its sheer size." But the post asks for pound for pound, which negates size. "It has the capacity to reach anywhere in the world at any place and kikc the crap out of anyone." Other forces have this capability too. "It is not merely an elite commando unit is an Army in itself." It isn't a commando unit at all. It's training is simply an infantryman who can operate amphibiously. "The USMC has over 170,000 active personnel making it superior to any other marine corps in the world" Obviously you havn't understood the question. Beside that, the size does not make it better.

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StymiestxBlitz RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 11/1/2003 9:50:55 PM

"The US is not the most experienced army in the western world, your just making that up. The number of examples you give is miniscule compared with some others." How am i making this up??? Give me some examples of any other western military power who has participated in major military operations like the United States has. "Obviously you havn't understood the question. Beside that, the size does not make it better." How does size not make it better??? A commando force such as the Royal Marines has no chance really against a USMC Expeditionary Force that ahs heavy armor, its own field artillery, air support, etc... With this being said all of the MC while respectively good at what they do cannot compare to the USMC for 100's of reasons and I am to lazy to sit here and debate them with you over and over again. The fact is the USMC can accomplish many different types of missions. They can act as regular infantry (Iraqi Freedom), they can act as special forces (war in afghanistan), they can storm beaches and do all that other marine ass kicking . You can argue this to the death but no other Marine Force has the capabilities in both logisitics and manpower to accomplish what the USMC can accomplish. "Obviously you havn't understood the question. Beside that, the size does not make it better." I have understood the question I am just tired of having pointless arguments like my grunt can take your grunt. You want to have a pound for pound argument! I'll give you one! 12 year old african warrior vs average western grunt!!! Common guys lets argue this pound for pound I feel like beefing up my nations identity!!! Pound for pound!!! I feel superior because it states on a piece of paper my troop can beat yours!!!

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StymiestxBlitz RE:Top Marine forces of the world pound for pound 11/1/2003 9:52:27 PM

"The US is not the most experienced army in the western world, your just making that up. The number of examples you give is miniscule compared with some others." Peacekeeping doesn't count nimrod!!! I am talking post cold war era!!!

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