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Subject: What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?
Roman    1/13/2005 9:03:47 PM
What size/structure of military forces/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia? Here is the relevant info on Slovakia: link
 
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Gothic Irishmen    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 12:45:56 AM
I personally think since its a small nation and a bit mountainous (I think) a ground force is most appropiate and with air support of helicopters so might wanna run with that idea because theres no use for a first strike capability because who are they gonna go after? so i think they should get a small army extremly well equpped with able commanders they should do fine (dont forgwt helicopters they are very useful!!!) now i notice they had a coast line well after all that military build up is done it wouldnt be a bad idea starting a navy know how the world is always having problems they can be considered a peaceful country by sending ships places to help with relef and combat when ever needed. hope this helps im no military expert but this is what you should be building on
 
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Thomas    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 4:55:37 AM
I think number one priority is to have a national militia under government political control - a home guard. This to cement political control over armed forces. after that You can gradually develop armed forces with tanks and other stuff, that requires full time personel. i still consider it a mistake, that Germany after WW2 did not start their military buildup with a Home Guard, where You under political control could keep "undesireables" out of organised violence. The result in East Germany was a continuation of the Nazi-army.
 
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displacedjim    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 9:51:37 AM
My suggestion is that Slovakia take advantage of the fact they are safely nestled within a cushion of other European countries and not bother wasting money on a military at all. It's not like Hungary is going to suddenly invade or something. The only way you'll face a military threat is if there's some sort of continental war--in which case small Slovakia couldn't really afford to mount a defense sufficient to keep out whatever large armies would be involved anyway. Just be happy, sit tight, and maybe develop some battalion-sized quick reaction force to deal with some extremely unlikely possibility of a large terrorist gang attack. Displacedjim
 
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god of war    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 12:29:57 PM
Send some troops to Iraq, and the US will be happy with them. When the US is happy with a country, good things happen.
 
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Roman    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 1:29:47 PM
Displaced Jim, I agree that any forces Slovakia could build up would be insufficient to repel any substantial invasion by a decent-sized country. Furthermore, I also completely agree that a prospect of war with any of our small neighbours (such as Hungary you mention) is very remote. Hence, we do not need an armed force to defend against the above-mentioned nearly non-existent threats. That said, we do have an obligation to contribute to NATO a force proportionate or appropriate for our size, so we need armed forces for that purpose. We also need a military to defend against possible internal unrest, which although it is a highly unlikely possibility, always calls for having some minor military capability just in case and as a deterrent. We also have some miniscule territorial disputes over some villages with several our neighbours. The chance of war over these villages is non-existent, but armed forces can still be used to 'show the flag' so to speak - think of it along the lines of the dispute between Denmark and Canada over some islands near Greenland - there is no chance of war, but both send armed forces there to show the flag and not loose their claim (Denmark has been much more successful at this than Canada so far). Gothic Irishmen, yes if Slovakia needed a defensive fore, I would also think a very small mountain force would be the way to go, plus a larger pre-trained guerrilla force - we are good guerrilla country with our mountains and forests and all. Thomas, yes a national militia/home guard/territorial army/reserve is a good idea to keep the population involved in the defense of their country, give them people a connection to the military and also does provide some limited military capability, plus a ready pool of recruits in case of a war or a guerrilla war. God of war, we already have troops in Iraq. Only 105 troops (one company?) and I have no clue what type of troops, but troops nonetheless. What 'good things' can we expect to happen now? ;)
 
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french stratege    roman    1/14/2005 2:30:32 PM
Exactly Finland choice except that you spare 15% of budget because you have no navy. Considering size of slovakia, PPP GDP and fact they already produce tank , I would have a 200 m$ procurement budget so half of Finland except for armor and army helos where size could be similar of Finland's (230 T72).SO 110 000 men 300 arty 230 tank (upgraded T72) 32 F18/M2000 300 medium range SAM (maybe second German Patriot updated) 30 helos. But it is a little short with 400 2002 m$total budget.Maybe at 500/600 m$ they could handle that more easily. Or I would have a little less on heavy weapons but get an high tech light infantery with lot of SHORAD mistral like/ antitank/ night vision/multispectral camouflage
 
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joe6pack    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/14/2005 5:01:26 PM
I think I'd go for a cross between what Thomas mentioned in regards to reserves, homeguard and what a few others mentioned in regards to a small but well equipped and trained infantry force. Augmented with some helos and some IFVs or better equipped APCs. Spend the defense savings on making sure your country has good rail lines, airports, and roads that make easier for allies to support you. The improved infrastrucutre probably would help the economy as a side benifit.
 
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god of war    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/15/2005 12:44:19 AM
"God of war, we already have troops in Iraq. Only 105 troops (one company?) and I have no clue what type of troops, but troops nonetheless. What 'good things' can we expect to happen now? ;) " I had not known you all had troops in Iraq. I would like to thank all contributing nations(100 troops is much better than nothing, or going against us, like that one country....started with F and rhymes with ench? I really hadnt thought out what i meant by "Good Things" Well, those 100 troops are getting combat expierence, which is good for building an armed force. Also, if somebody invades you, I bet the US will help you out. You might get good prices on weapons, like the Austrailians got on the M1s. You never know. Again, thanks to Slovakia and all the other nations helping to spread democracy and freedom. From the bottom of my heart, I thank all of the alliance of the willing. Without war, there is no peace.
 
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boris the romanian    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/15/2005 7:39:22 AM
Australians were seriously fu**ed over by the Americans regarding the M-1 purchase. $550 million for 59 tanks (and support equipment, spare parts and ammunition)!!! Australia could have gotten the same number of Leopard 2s or Challanger 2s for half the price. Hell, at the rate Germany is disarming, they might have thrown in a battalion of Marder A3s for free!
 
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god of war    RE:What kind of military/armed forces would you recommend for Slovakia?    1/15/2005 10:51:21 AM
I thought I remembered the Austrailians getting the M1s for really good prices. My mistake.
 
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