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Subject: Have we seen the last conventional war?
AchtungLagg    5/6/2004 2:18:24 AM
With all the changes recently...have we seen the end to conventional war?
I.e. war between modernized nations, or even war between nations in general...or is that in the past, forever?
(i know using words such as "last" and "forever" are too general, however, the point should be emphasized, by these adjectives i mean except for small oubursts here or there, have we seen an end to major conventional conflict?
 
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Final Historian    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 3:38:21 AM
Unlikely. I suspect we will still see a few more. However, I suspect that they are becoming rare, and the next century might not see any. But then again, they said that the First World War was the "War to end all Wars."
 
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ilpars    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 3:55:03 AM
Economies of all major powers are connected to each other. If 1 suffer, all of us suffer. So, I do not see any war in the near future between major powers. But we can not know what the future have for us. If balance of power changes, then there could be a new conventional wars. But even then they will not be wars to the end like WW2 as all major powers has nuclear. So any war will be a limited war like Korea.
 
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AMTP10E    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 5:43:45 AM
>Economies of all major powers are connected to each other. If 1 suffer, all of us suffer. So, I do not see any war in the near future between major powers. Germany's biggest trading partners in 1913 were France and England. Germany's biggest trading partners in 1939 were England, France, and the Soviet Union... We haven't seen the end of conventional war by a long shot.
 
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Massive    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war? - Ilpars   5/6/2004 5:54:12 AM
In what sense would a Korean war be limited?
 
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ilpars    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war? - Ilpars   5/6/2004 6:05:22 AM
In the Korean war, both China and US was involved but they did not wage war outside of Korean borders. USA did not bomb China. China did not attack any other ally of USA such as Taiwan. So the war was limited. In a possible future Korean War, it is a great possibility that both China and USA will be involved. But I think again war will be limited to Korean peninsula. As a response to AMTP10E. Today western countries economies are very intermixed through international corparations. In WW1, WW2 these countries were trading partners. Now they are much more than that. They are part of a same economical structure. So if one major power in that structure get sick, all countries in the structure will begin sneeze. Among the major powers only China has a seperated economical structure. So only possible major war can be between China and Western powers in the near future.
 
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Nappy    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 6:53:39 AM
One day someone will come up with something to counter nukes. They said the samething about machine guns, that it will basically make it impossible for people to do anything because it's too horrifying. But then they came up with the tank. Its only a matter of time and then we're back to sqaure one. Wars just don't end, people however do.
 
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fall out    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 6:58:07 AM
I agree with AMTP10E. You cannot reverse the fact that in the pervious 3,000 yrs of human history, only 300 of those were "peacefull", which really only meant a lull between fighting.
 
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mudshark    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 12:55:20 PM
I can?t help but feel that the war in Iraq is the first of the oil wars. He who controls the oil controls the world. To frank Herbert for you? Sorry. So an end to conventional war?s? I think Iraq is the just the beginning Shame we are at our best in war time. Strange that we condemn confrontation and violence but desire it. I personally do my best to avoid violence but when im left with no other option I revel in it. Any one else? Just me then. IL get my coat
 
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Ad    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/6/2004 1:11:42 PM
Why? Have you pulled? I like many others that have commented, very much doubt whether we have seen the end of conventional wars (by this you mean none asymmetric?). However, I believe that with only the US, Britain and France having the means to bring war to anybody on a global scale, the chances of a world wide conflict are greatly diminished. There are clear flash points however, such as Iran, Syria, North Korea, Taiwan and Indonesia, yet these would be contained to their local theatre. Terrorism is a crude means of brining the war to our shores, yet its not nearly as effective as a Naval Flotilla, backed up with an large air armada, TLAM or several armoured/mechanized divisions pouring up the isthmus and heading in your direction. So local theatre conflicts. Absolutely. Global war on a scale comparative to WWII? Very unlikely.
 
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fall out    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/7/2004 5:02:25 AM
"Global war on a scale comparative to WWII? Very unlikely." - i don't know about that AD, China, India, most likely Japan, in the not to distant future, will have a very good blue-water capability. Considering Asia is the most volatile atm, and that most of the future 'flash-points' are Asian nations, ie Indonesia, NK, Taiwan, any one of those could be the trigger, just like Germany and Poland or Austria-Hungary and Serbia were the trigger's for WW1+2. ;)
 
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Siddar    Shrinking Armys   5/7/2004 5:28:58 AM
As most armys around the world continue to shrink in size the chances of conventinal wars shrink. Not because they cant be fought but dealing with the after effects of them with small armys is very difcult.
 
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fall out    RE:Shrinking Armys   5/7/2004 6:41:35 AM
alot of armies are downsizing not for purely economical reasons, but for qualititive reasons, even the PLA are downsizing the number of troops in their army by about half a million for the reason of attempting to lift the quality of the rest of the troops. that doesnt mean that they wont be able to fight a conventional war as well if they had more troops, in fact, you could argue that they could fight better, due to increased efficiency, effectiveness and the overall quality of troops/equipment/tactics.
 
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jastayme3    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/14/2004 11:03:16 PM
Didn't they think we had seen the last conventional war-in 1913 don't be hasty
 
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jastayme3    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/14/2004 11:05:45 PM
only 300 of those were "peacefull", which really only meant a lull between fighting ................................ during which they probably called each other names
 
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Nasty German Idiot    RE:Have we seen the last conventional war?    5/15/2004 8:34:54 AM
Since when do less soldiers mean less War ? Think about the old times when they fought battles with 3000 Soldiers against 5000 ...
 
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