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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely): 1. USA 2. China 3. Germany 4. India 5. France 6. Russia 7. UK 8. Italy 9. Israel 10. Pakistan
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 6:15:37 PM
Well according what I've read recently the UK has a slightly higher GDP than Italy. Surely you can find a link, I'm not a economics student.
 
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Gray    RE:Top Ten ... economies it would seem   3/12/2004 6:18:55 PM
RM Nod, worry yourself not, I don't know where Arditi is getting his information from (and this isn't a competition so no need to be so confrontational I feel) but they are rather strange. Current GDP ranking is more like: 1.USA 2.Japan 3.Germany 4.UK 5.France 6.Italy UK and France have changed positions a few times in recent years. Italy hasn't. I'm not going to provide a link, bit if you search I'm sure you'll find one (if you're that interested).
 
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TOXICITEE    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 6:23:27 PM
Spain? I have half the head to say your bluffing. 6-8 years my ass, with it's shrinking population. so Spain is growing at what? 30% a year or so? In 2003 they had about $580 billion in GDP and they are goin to over take a $1,425 Billion GDP (2.5 times larger!)? I am surprised a "proffesional" like you cannot provide a link, I'm sure if what you say is true you could provide a book title or a link.
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Top Ten ... economies it would seem   3/12/2004 6:29:49 PM
These are the same figures I keep finding, sorry if I seemed a bit confrontational but some of the comments arditi came out with when he first got here make me think he's just got something against the UK, don't ask me why.
 
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TOXICITEE    RE:Top Ten ... economies it would seem   3/12/2004 6:35:50 PM
I sort of noticed that too when this thread was started, he/she put u.k very low on his list and I think he delibretly put a gap between france and u.k. Sorry but I'm not used to seeing a gap between france and britain, especialy if it is russia...
 
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Arditi    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 6:35:52 PM
The problem is that you can research a dozen links and come up with a dozen answers. Which method of measurement is being used? I have no doubt that you can find a Website that inevitably proves your point. I suspect that if you are looking at an indicator that shows the UK higher than Italy than you are looking at data from the World Bank (World Development Indicator Data Base). NOT A GOOD OR RELIABLE SOURCE - but then again, that is my opinion. In addition, are we measuring Aggregate GDP (what I am referring to) or PPP GDP, or GNI Atlas Method, or GNI PPP Atlas Method. Do you see my point?
 
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Arditi    RE:Top Ten ... economies it would seem   3/12/2004 6:41:21 PM
I have nothing against the Brits - other than the fact that they can neither dance nor cook. Someone once said that these were the only two measures of culture. I go to London once a year for 10 to 14 days attending Europe's finest Toy Soldier Show and that is the opinion that I have formulated.
 
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TOXICITEE    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 6:50:53 PM
Britain is ahead of spain in every form of economic measurment (can't be sure of PPP, I didn't search this because it is a very unreliable) Instead of saying Everyones sources are not true, give us ur "proffesional" opinion and what is a trust worthy link. I mean if 9.9 out of 10 sites (official by the way) say the same thing... how far off could we be???
 
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TOXICITEE    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 6:53:48 PM
Have you ever tried their fish? (maybe your not a fish eater...) or their "chipy" I believe it is called... much better than mcdonalds and burger king...
 
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Worcester    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- check the source   3/12/2004 7:05:52 PM
It's really very simple. National income is best expressed as GNP. This is everything produced plus investment income plus "invisible" exports (insurance, finance, etc.). If you use GDP then its like taking the US without Wall Street's foreign income or London without the City; some nations, such as the Netherlands have huge investment income in relation to their economy. Of course you count all of this, it's income. PPP is crap. Pure and simple. If you had $10,000 and lived in Botswana then your standard of living would be similar to having a $1,000,000 in the US. Because land is cheap, labor is cheap, and some food is cheaper; it's a method of comparing local living standards. For China it expalins why a worker earning $300 per month is not starving; because of the lower living costs, his $300 has a purchasing power of say $900 per month; but he doesn't earn $900, does he? Why is it crap? Because the Chinese worker would starve in any western country. Because you cannot repay a $1,000,000 loan with $10,000. Neither can you buy a military aircraft or a tank with PPP $. It's purely for comparing living standards adjusted for cheaper living costs; and to make poor countries feel richer.
 
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