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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely): 1. USA 2. China 3. Germany 4. India 5. France 6. Russia 7. UK 8. Italy 9. Israel 10. Pakistan
 
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ex-98C    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World - Avatar   5/30/2004 7:08:04 PM
Because the United States is at the top or near the top of just about anyones definition of power. - Training - Numbers - Quality of Equipment - Technology - Force Projections - Logistics - Defensive Geography - Nuclear power
 
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avatar    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World - Avatar   5/30/2004 7:25:09 PM
On what grounds do nuclear capabilities make good grounds for a good army
 
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avatar    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World - Avatar   5/30/2004 7:26:36 PM
and also defensive geography
 
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fall out    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World - Avatar   5/31/2004 12:51:28 AM
pretty hard for an Asian or say European country to attack the US, they have to cross the world's largest and/or 2nd largest ocean to get there. i think that's what ex-98c was getting at. Nuclear weapons are just one criteria and im pretty sure that Arditi was stating the top 10 armed forces, not just armies. power projection, ie the US are the only country to be able to surge suffice force into any theatre in the entire globe thru the use of CBGs (Carrier Battle Groups), sub's, amphibious transport ships, air transport, ie C-130H's, etc. There are many other factors in the criteria of determining the world no. 1 but frankly, as the sole hyper/superpower, i don't think there is any questioning. ;)
 
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ex-98C    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World - Avatar   5/31/2004 4:11:29 PM
Pretty much exactly what I was meaning to say Fall Out. I also agree that list is for the totality of the Armed Forces, not just the Army. Some nations, like China, even group their naval and air forces under the title of "army". Not to mention the fact the the US Marine Corps is more powerful than most of the worlds "armies" even if it is not classifed as such.
 
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french stratege    Avatar: nuclear weapons matter!   5/31/2004 5:58:50 PM
"On what grounds do nuclear capabilities make good grounds for a good arm " I don't really understand if you are speaking quality or power but: With nuclear weapons, good C4ISR and intercontinental second strike capabilities, a country can not loose against a country which doen't get that! Only the five UNO powers have that with a doubt for China but they compensate by number. And France rank three for that. I fundamental interest of France is at stake no doubt we will treaten or use them if we are going to loose of conventional side.
 
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avatar    RE:Avatar: nuclear weapons matter!   5/31/2004 7:11:34 PM
but this is surely the top ten armies not the top ten nuclear capabilities, yes if a country has a lack of nukes then they are at a loss in many ways but if say lithunia were to get nukes and still have a crappy army this would, in your terms, make them have a better overall army. plus surely the nuclear capabilities are not governed by the armed forces but by government. the army just fire it.
 
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Histocrit    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- bigtasty   6/2/2004 4:59:13 AM
While I like to be thourough in my explanations, to me there is one issue which is the most simple, and lacking of one; the rank of the United States in terms of military power. There is absoloutely no other nation in the world which can even near the USA in power. I would also like to add that I am not at all biased towards the United States; I am simply presenting fact.
 
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Worcester    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- Histocrit   6/2/2004 12:26:14 PM
US #1 correct. It is interesting don't you think, when we talk about hyper-power, etc. that 100 years ago the Brits controlled 1/4 of the world's land surface, 1/5 of the world's population and, arguably, all the oceans and made a profit doing it; we, the US control 1/25th of the world's population, we're having trouble with Iraq and it's costing us $ billions. Historically, who really is/was the ultimate power? We can destroy the entire planet, but it doesn't really seem to matter; not if the reality is a series of "colonial" limited wars.
 
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Goths    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   6/2/2004 3:25:31 PM
france just playing
 
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