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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely): 1. USA 2. China 3. Germany 4. India 5. France 6. Russia 7. UK 8. Italy 9. Israel 10. Pakistan
 
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bigtasty    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- ghost11   5/21/2004 3:18:44 PM
my top ten lads..... 1,usa 2,uk 3,france 4,russia 5,germany 6,china 7,india 8,north korea 9,pakistan 10, south korea a bit of a dodgy issue russia really,but im sure if push came to shove those guys would be worthy of their ranking.Oh and Arditi? stop talking bollocks.
 
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Lea    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/21/2004 4:06:52 PM
Gentlemen, I've been reading these discussions for quite some time. I'd rather read than post, but I just had to say something. I suspect those of you who seem to have a problem with Arditi are no doubt British or simply misplaced Anglophiles. There is much in what Arditi says that strikes very close to home. I find him totally interesting and have no doubt that he is Italian. Most Italians of his political persuasion are extremely symphatetic to the Irish "Catholic" cause. As for you NM-ROD, the fact that he does not wish to engage you in discussion does not imply that he has no argument. Perhaps, he simply has a life outside of this Board. As for you AD and Rule Britannia, a little less arrogance and pomposity would make your arguments less sterile. On the other hand, if there is one inherent right in any democratic society it is the right to be ignorant, and both you fellas have exercised that right to the fullest.
 
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TOXICITIE 2    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/21/2004 4:54:29 PM
Their argument did not start because of Artidi's mentioning (ignorant) of Irland. There are other boards where Artidi has criticized the British. Also, I find it weird you defend Artidi from RM-nod because if Artidi can spend that much time annyonying the Brits and indirectly saying he hates Britain surley he can spend 1 minute to answer RM-nod's questions. I don't see how you can say Ad and Rule are ignorant (they may have had their share of little mistakes). could you link a post of theirs showing their ignorance?
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/21/2004 5:46:13 PM
-Lea, I would say the hearty debates orbiting Artiti's rather "sterile" comments were quite productive, i.e the discussion of future economic states and world orders. I would also like to make clear that everything I have ever said on this subject has been based on factual information which is in stark contrast to Artiti's completely unfounded claims of pseudo British political posturing which were indeed reprehensible due to that very fact and coining your phrase were, "ignorant".
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/21/2004 6:14:45 PM
-To add further to what I said previously, Arditi claimed that the very cultural and civil structure of the United Kingdom is based upon a the imitation of something superior than it actually is, which is unfounded and is based on no factual pretence, couple that with the similar implication that British people were stupid and that our Army are terrorists, statements I found to be offensive as did many others and his claims about Ireland were rubbished by natives of the Republic. I really don't appreciate being criticised by someone who has made no contribution to this discussion and the fact that you imply that people who do so do not have a life other than posting which is quite untrue in regards to everyone involved.
 
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Ad    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/22/2004 1:46:28 AM
I would also very much like you to post a thread where I have been ignorant. If I may appear arrogant about Ireland, then its only because I have a great passion and desire to talk about this subject as it is what I spent my final year in university focusing on.
 
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Histocrit    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- ghost11   5/22/2004 6:07:11 AM
In response to the list made by 'bigtasty' I think it is quite represent and accurate, much more so than that created by ghost11 - although I would strike North Korea and maybe do a little switching at the top (USA is of course number 1). But other than that a fine list. (Perhaps we could stay on topic)
 
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civvystreet    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- bigtasty   5/22/2004 4:39:17 PM
Aren't we forgeting Japan? In under a decade and that isn't so long in terms of mililtary planning/procurement Japan can and probably will be the 2nd most powerful military. Say 2012: 1-US 2-Japan- out from under the US mil. umbrella it'll have to hold its own against China/North Korea. 3. China-obvious 4.UK 5.France 6.Germany -will try to reap a peace dividend as part of the EU and prioritise social programs 7.Russia- arsenal will be obsolete and at that level of GDP one does not build top of the line toys-that-go-bang- would do well to emulate the Japanese in their quest for ZD-zero-defects in production 8. Israel 9.South Korea-another pacific rim nation that will probably build-up its armed forces to face new challenges without US backing- on the assumption that the US will be otherwise engaged 10. India Special mention: Australia- will step up and be counted in policing its neighbourhood given the major fundamentalist/secessionist flashpoints to its NW. This will need force projection capabilities-ripper bonzer...:)
 
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Histocrit    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- bigtasty   5/22/2004 5:52:09 PM
I strongly agree with this idea; that Japan can become a top military power. There are, however many circumstances which have to occur, both military and political. First, Japan will have to somehow negate the many restrictions that are currently in binding effect (originating from WW2). In addition Japan will have to count on the US leaving the region - which we can count on happening in a very long time. There are also many other events, with regards to China, North Korea, and Taiwan that can occur to disrupt stability (or lack there-of) in the region. It should be remembered that Japan only has the 'potential' to rise in military strength, and does not mean it will happen, within any known amount of time. I strongly believe it could happen however.
 
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avatar    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World- bigtasty   5/30/2004 6:55:08 PM
hi first post...any way can you tell me why everyone has instantly put the united states as having the best army. just wondering.
 
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