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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. India
5. France
6. Russia
7. UK
8. Italy
9. Israel
10. Pakistan
 
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swhitebull    RE: Israel should be added - Arditi - simple math lessons   8/9/2004 11:20:55 PM
......Were it not for BILLIONS and BILLIONS in American PREFERENTIAL, aid (Military, and Economic) through the years, Israel would not exis ... Nice OPINION, but this has been already been discussed and refuted AD NAUSEUM many times before on these boards. Now before we have to dredge up all those old thread, care to provide ANY data to back your OPINION up? swhitebull
 
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Arditi    RE: Israel should be added - Arditi - simple math lessons   8/10/2004 4:32:08 PM
It would seem that you (Extraparapepet) are not only anti-Italian but also anti-Semetic. Any other nationalities you wish to slam based on heresay and conjecture.
 
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Extraparapepetl    RE: Israel should be added   8/11/2004 7:50:11 PM
Am I anti-Italian? I do think they are the worst soldiers in Europe. I don?t think that is being anti-Italian. It seems you have had this discussion a thousand times, since many people think like me. But... anti-Semitic? I never said Israel should not exist. I do think Israel has a right to exist. They won their war of independence (like my country), and that is enough for any country to exist. What I do think is that some countries need others to continue existing (politically) after some time. South Koreans, Israelis & Taiwanese need(ed) America to guarantee their independence, since at some point they have faced overwhelming odds. Some countries like France or Israel can guarantee their independence without outside support now, but this has not always been the case.
 
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CalStrike    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World-Think More Please.   8/11/2004 8:36:10 PM
?Top 10 Armies-Ranked in descending order of how a nation's military can handle a global response: 10.)Taiwan 9.)S. Korea 8.)Israel 7.)Japan 6.)India 5.)France 4.)Russia 3.)U.K. 2.)China 1.)U.S.A? Only 1) USA, 3) UK and 5) France can do anything about it, so why have you wasted your time in typing in the others? People don't seem to understand why most countries don't support force projection capabilities. Do you think countries like Russia, Japan, China or Israel with massive technological, economic, and manpower capabilities don't build naval vessels or frigates because they CANT? No it's because it's just not cost effective or the country just doesn't plain need it. Ok let's say Russia decides to build a huge navy with modern aircraft carriers which they could pull off right now, but what do you think will happen with the U.S.? or for that matter most of Russia's rebuilding corporations? Britain and France (both secondary powers on the world stage, sorry but it's true). Can't move a 4 man gunboat to the nearest petrol station without asking permission from the U.S. They can't even fire their nukes on their own, and this is out of the mouth of Britain's defense ministry. Also, read the Annual Defense report from the White House, they don't see anyone short of those "pauper Russians" or that "bogeyman China" as posing a credible threat. Britain is just an American puppet, and France a loud mouthing annoyance. Damn people wake the **** up.
 
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Ad    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World-Think More Please.   8/11/2004 9:21:04 PM
?Ok let's say Russia decides to build a huge navy with modern aircraft carriers which they could pull off right now? Lol! Sure they could, what with that pittance budget? They can?t even pay the crews or pay for the up-keep of their current navy, which is nothing but a collection of rusting hulks. Japan can?t build a Blue water fleet due to the terms of the surrender and subsequent peace agreement following the Second World War. ?Britain and France (both secondary powers on the world stage, sorry but it's true). Can't move a 4 man gunboat to the nearest petrol station without asking permission from the U.S. They can't even fire their nukes on their own, and this is out of the mouth of Britain's defense ministry. Also, read the Annual Defense report from the White House, they don't see anyone short of those "pauper Russians" or that "bogeyman China" as posing a credible threat. Britain is just an American puppet, and France a loud mouthing annoyance. Damn people wake the **** up. The rest of what you typed out is unsubstantiated BS. Why not prove the crap you came out with? ?Damn people wake the **** up.? Why not practise what you preach- idiot.
 
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Nappy    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World-Think More Please.   8/11/2004 10:23:02 PM
Britain = Small Island owned by U.S. France = Smelly people who can't seem to fight for ****, and screw their allies over. You wouldn't be a country if we didn't show up in WW2. Nuff' said.
 
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trib    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World-Think More Please.   8/12/2004 5:03:59 AM
ok now it's UK and France Bashing turn. your statement about those 2 country not able to move any forces without US agreement is really stupid. falkland for UK are a nice exemple and Ivory coast are also an example for france. I don't know much about UK nuclear detterent but i'm certain they cold initiate a launch without us agreement in case of necessity. As for France their nuclear detterent is totally independant so no US agreement needed. and for the "show up" in WW2, i know a lot of old resistance fighter and ancient members of the free french forces who would like to have a word with you.........
 
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Ad    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World-Think More Please.   8/12/2004 7:37:34 AM
It such a myth, generally perpetuated by the pathetic and always inaccurate left of Britain, that Britain lacks control over its SLBM Nuclear deterrent. This is completely false. The Trident II MIRV is US made and manufactured, however the nuclear warheads used on the Vanguard Class SSBN?s are British made and British maintained by AWE. ?Britain = Small Island owned by U.S.? Prove this, you can?t.
 
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Heorot    RE:To Nappy.   8/12/2004 8:00:48 AM
Your name is well chosen. In Britain a nappy is a dirty diaper.
 
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trib    RE:To Nappy.   8/12/2004 9:46:30 AM
lol, now i understand his forum name :)
 
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Ad    RE:To Nappy.   8/12/2004 12:21:35 PM
?I feel so sorry for the likes of "old Europe". You're done, finished in history. Little Falkland campaigns and "excursions" into some remote part of Africa is really how you can masturbate and keep the delusion alive. Your fragile ego can't handle this fact. How pathetic.? So are you suggesting that we invent wars? ?Stop talking and save yourself a shred of honour.? Another poster that doesn?t practise what he preaches.
 
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Lightning Rod    RE:To Nappy.   8/12/2004 2:13:27 PM
Nappy, This ignorance that you spew makes me think we need a little chlorine in the American gene pool. The United States has been unquestionably the biggest kid on the block for about 10-15 years now. Yippee! Let?s try staying that way for the next 200 years then we can start getting uppity with the Brits and the French.
 
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captainjoe    Re: Zhukov 6/14/2004 1:50:08 PM and Goths 7/31/2004 4:51:38 PM   8/15/2004 8:36:57 AM
What about: "fully equipped militiray to the Palestinian civilian populations who have no weapons much less even the support.
 
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captainjoe    RE:FUNNY and stupid!!!!!   8/15/2004 8:59:11 AM
How utterly sad that there are still people like chi-com around!
 
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Gebirgsjäger       1/22/2007 10:01:08 AM
ok..75% of this thread is only about *whine**whine* why isnt the UK on first place?*whine* this is sooo wrong...
 
face it guys, UK looses much of its past influence every year, even today noone really cares about what england has to say..
 
"on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential "
 
Manpower - Germany has the biggest Army in Europe
Technology - German Weapons and Weapon systems are the best in the world, it`s fact and noone can argue about
Firepower - Tiger Helicopter, Leopard 2, Panzerhaubitze 2000, G36..ah just a few examples
Training - Hard, but good training (i was in afghanistan and in kosovo albania)
Resources - Can`t say much about this..All i can say is that we always had what we needed, and enough of it
Availabe Reserves - Yea, i guess around 400000 (well trained and equipped)
Nuclear Potential - Germany could build own Nukes within 2 weeks
 
well..i know there`ll be other whining and flaming comments so i won`t look back in here..
If you don`t believe what i wrote, google it or read a fuckin book or whatever..
U know UK is nothing anymore, get along with it you god damned crying schoolgirls..
 
 
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