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thedivisionbell rli 7/10/2004 12:06:24 PM

I fail to comprehend his/her list . I believe it's safe to conjecture that he is a Pakistani , there is no mention of India on that list. It also has Pakistan at number 6 . I don't mean to demean the Pakistani Army but optimism has it's limits . The Indian Army IMHO deserves a mention in the top 10 . cheers ,

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thedivisionbell Error 7/10/2004 12:10:05 PM

I meant to say armed forces rather than army . A thouhsand apologies :) I guess Brits will recognize the expression , it was a funny comical stereotype of sikhs in a famous Brit comedy show . that is the limit of my digression , cheers

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Arditi RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! - RM-nod 7/10/2004 5:28:13 PM

A list of countries that could oppose the RAF? OK, how about Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Portugal, Greece, the Vatican, the Rebublic of San Marino, Monaco?

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bigtasty RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! -arditi 7/10/2004 5:32:07 PM

very amusing arditi.

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Arditi RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! -arditi 7/10/2004 5:35:05 PM

Sorry - but I think Nimrod had it coming - although, I would'nt necessarily discount Belgium or the Netherlands.

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RM-Nod RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! -arditi 7/10/2004 6:43:21 PM

lol, so even the ones that you can make up are all allies anyway. My point proven I see. PS, there is already a member called Nimrod, and although it's nice to be likened to such an excellent maritime aircraft I think we should reserve that to the man who chose that name. ;) And Arditi, how long untill your next brain fart is due? Is it like old faithfull?

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Raslin RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! -arditi 7/11/2004 10:07:37 PM

Dont take it as a joke. Greece has a strong airforce, and probably could take on the RAF.

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RM-Nod RE:air superiority is the prime factor to rank! -arditi 7/11/2004 10:27:26 PM

You miss my point though. Greece is an ally. I believe it was you who said, when facing questions about France's navy, that there are no conceivable scenarios in which France's lack of naval area defence would pose a problem; while I disagree with that I also pointed out that there are no conceivable scenarios in which the Royal Air Force's deficiencies would be a threat to operations. A side point was also that France's fleet protection is relativley a lot worse than the UK's air defence.

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sanman India Ahead of Russia, UK, France, Israel? Not! 7/12/2004 1:54:30 PM

Firstly, I'm an India, so I'm not inclined to put down my own country. But there's no way India is ahead of Russia, UK, France, Israel. Sure, India has a lot sheer size, and various counter-insurgency wars have kept Indian soldiers practiced in live-fire. But there's no way that Indians can outclass Russia, UK, France, Israel. India as of yet doesn't even manufacture a single big-ticket weapons system for export. We do make lots of low-end knockoffs of light weapons (rifles, etc). But the biggest military machines India has ever exported are military transport trucks. India doesn't have much of a track record of deterring attack on itself, which would be an important indicator of how powerful a country is. I would say: 1 USA 2 Russia 3 China 4 UK 5 France 6 Japan 7 Israel 8 India 9 Germany 10 Italy And the only reason I put my fellow Indians ahead of the German and Italians is because we have nuclear capability. Not trying to be self-deprecating, I'm being realistic.

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Warhammer RE:India Ahead of Russia, UK, France, Israel? Not! 7/12/2004 2:53:51 PM

Maybe we can use a boxing analogy here. Heavyweights: US(heavyweight Champion of the world, would win if put in the ring with any single fighter, and concievable several at a time), Russia, and China in that order, with China competing for Russia's spot(though if China and Russia got into a dirty fight, China at this point has a lot more stamina which could decide the fight, with Russia having quite a bit more raw power, speed, and reach). Middleweights: Uk/France(can't be absolutely sure which is tougher, England has control of the ring, but France has an advantage in dealing face shots, need to get them in the ring to settle this debate), India/Israel(another power over stamina issue, sure Israel packs quite a punch and is a rather fast fighter, but wouldn't be able to last 15 rounds with India. India has good potential to be a heavyweight, but not quite there yet), Germany/Italy are both good fighters, they can take a beating, but they have to get in close as they have a short reach, and not too much power. Pakistan is a decent fighter, with an Ok reach, power and speed. Not bad, but not spectacular in any way either. Japan, great potential, and an alright fighter, but is getting fat from years of sitting around and not training. NK/SK, both have quite a bit of power in their punches, SK has more reach, and stamina, where NK hits the hardest, though both of their fighting styles are tailored to fighting each other, which limits their effectiveness against others (There is somewhat of an order to the middleweights, though that doesn't exclude the bottom of the middleweights from knocking out the top ranking in a fight) Lightweights: Top ranking here being Australia, Brazil, quite a few European countries, Turkey, Iran, etc. Most have very little potential to go beyond lightweight, though notably Australia and Brazil could be heavyweights someday.

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Arditi RE:India Ahead of Russia, UK, France, Israel? Not! 7/29/2004 9:38:39 PM

I would argue that India is indeed ahead of Russia. The Russian Navy is in total disrepair and Russia cannot even support its troops in Kosovo. In conventional ability, Russia is a Third World Country. Its nuclear arsenal (it too will eventually be obsolete) maintains the illusion that Russia has capabilities.

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Zhukov RE:IAFbestinworld 7/31/2004 2:11:56 PM

"IAFbestinworld 6/14/2004 1:50:08 PM It is funny that you critisize French for having lost in WW2 to advocate Israel is better.If I remember well Israel is populated with European jews and Arabs jews.Their grand parents were mass murdured passively by nazis with the exception of a little desperate resistance in warzaw guetto:not an example of overall courage. So if the French are not courageous because of their grand parents, Israel people should be less if we follow your logic! Sell your computer and buy a brain " You should buy a brain you filthy French pig. If you had one ,you would see that the mass murder of defenseless civilians the vast majority of whom were elderly, young children and women, cannot be compared with the cowardly behavior of the French Army of 1940. Despite having more than 2 million troops, better tanks tjan the Germans, a very large airforce, some of the most formidible fixed fortifications in the world, the cowardly French pigs were beaten in 4 days!! Then they quickly surrendered and did the bidding of the Nazis and assisted them in the mass murder of Jews. YOu french are the lowest vermin in the world. I wish I could tell that in person Israel in a war today, could defeat France in 2 days. Bonjour Surrender Monkeys.

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Raslin RE:IAFbestinworld-Zhukov 7/31/2004 4:33:22 PM

Wow, thats what they teach you in school? A. France took 6 weeks to fall, not 4 days. B. France was just entering its depression in 1936, Germany was leaving it in mid 30's. C. In 1938 or so, france nationalized its air force companies. They had little time, by 1940, to catch up. Some french pilots only got 3 days of training with their Detwoine 520's before going into battle. D. French tanks were stronger, not nessecairaly better. Having a one man turret severly reduced capability. E. French air force was smaller than the German one, and even with british planes which were promised, were only close to even. F.Over 400,000 French died fighting the germans, and 1.9m French soldiers were taken prisoners of war. They didn't run away, they stood and fought, and lost. Don't post things that clearly show no intelligence. It not only shows how uninformed you are, but someone else uninformed might almost think you're telling the truth, and it will spread.

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Goths RE:raslin 7/31/2004 4:51:38 PM

You love spin a loss to make it seem like it was just a set back more than a a-s whipping like it was. the point here was you cant compare a nation with a fully equipped military to the Jewish civilian populations of Europe who had no weapons much less even the support of there suppose countrymen you idiot.

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Raslin RE:raslin 7/31/2004 5:04:20 PM

Hmm... Notice that was my first post on this subject. Read my thread. I state nothing about israel. I simply said that France was not some wuss nation, and people who say that are grossly mis-informed or just biased. France lost, but fought hard, and lost more than america lost in 4 years of fighting, in about 4 weeks. They lost bad, but they fought hard, and saying the things you people do spit on the hundreds of thousands of french who fought bravely. I dont call much at all evil, but thats textbook in my opinion.

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