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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely): 1. USA 2. China 3. Germany 4. India 5. France 6. Russia 7. UK 8. Italy 9. Israel 10. Pakistan
 
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Arditi    RE:WARNING FROM SYSOPS - ARDITI , AD and RB   5/14/2004 9:01:42 PM
Please note that I merely stated an opinion and only responded when directly attacked.
 
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RM-Nod    Arditi - Please respond to this   5/15/2004 7:54:59 AM
Please expand on a few things for me here, thankyou. 1-You support the IRA, however the majority in northern Ireland wish to remain a part of Britain. Given this then how can any sort of terrorist action (I'll come to the terrorist part later) be justifiable and indeed how can any action that is aimed at re-unification without majority support be justifiable? 2-You claim that the IRA were not terrorists. This is contary to what the facts say, the IRA have carried out bombings and kidnappings of civilians with the express purpose of causing fear in the civilian population that they hope would sway the government. This is the definition of terrorism. How can the IRA be described as anything other than this? 3-The British army in Ireland has behaved as terrorist. How so? All actions taken in Ireland by UK forces has always been in accordance with the law and civilians have never been targeted, this method has cost the lives of many British service men and women. Can you give me any occasion in which a British man or woman has acted, upon orders from there superiors, in a manner fitting that of a terrorist? 4-The monarchy is a dellusion of power. Simply can you prove this view for me? 5-You claim Britain is not powerful. Please can you expand on this and post facts, figures etc to back it up thankyou. If you truley believe what you say and it is not pointless Brit bashing then you must have reasons you believe it. If so you will have no difficulty in answering the above questions using facts. Thankyou for you time.
 
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fullamongo    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/15/2004 9:22:35 AM
Rule: "The Irish republic is only maintaining its economic growth by committing to colossal income tax levels to minimise taxes on Commerce and Industry, it could never hope to rival the economic prowess of the UK." Incorrect. Ireland has one of, if not the lowest tax reigemes in the EU. Our income-tax rate is 20% (lower band) and 42% (upper band). People on the minimum wage don't pay income tax at all. To say that we pay higher taxes so that US corporations pay less is incorrect. We pay less taxes than most overall 'cos we believe in small government. As our Tainiste (deputy prime minister) said: "we're closer to boston than berlin"
 
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civvystreet    The Irish question/Germany   5/15/2004 9:24:56 AM
Aren't "freedom struggles" an anachronism in modern, democratic societies. I don't understand why an Irishman in Ulster would want to break from GB, when he can exercise his franchise and vote for a autonomous form of governance much as the Scots have done. Is all that republicanism worth the strife and economic doldrums of years past? As far as Germany is concerned, the emergence of coutries such as Poland, Czech rep. etc. as manufacturing hubs- producing high quality products will be a bitter pill-especially since the very same EU will enable companies to shift operations. Soon GNP vs GDP will be the true measure of economic standing.
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/15/2004 11:26:05 AM
-I was simply quoting from an interview with a prominent Irish economist on Newsnight Scotland who said that the Irish economy was able to grow extensively in the 1990's by adopting the said methods of taxation to attract foreign investment, it's high level of external trade is signalled by a high share of combined exports and imports of goods to Gross Domestic Product (GDP) which was just under 100% in 2003. Arditi aught to check his facts, the Irish economy only grew at 1.5% in 2003 and inflation is at 3.5% it is critically important to note that the use of the GDP measure may not give the most an accurate indication of living standards for Ireland. GDP measures the total output produced by factors of production located in the Irish economy. Therefore it includes the substantial profits made by foreign multinationals, much of which is repatriated. Gross National Product (GNP) adjusts for these repatriations and may give a better indication of income and hence living standards for the Irish case. The difference between the two output measures is stark in the Irish case with GNP accounting for just 83% of GDP in 2003.
 
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fullamongo    RE:The Irish question   5/15/2004 11:32:56 AM
In the "Protestant state" of northern Irealnd from the '20's till the 60's (i think) most Catholics didn't have the right to vote. Only landowners could vote. If you owned 2 plots of land, you got 2 votes. This system was designed to minimise Nationalist representation in the North. Gerrymandering was a widespread practise. There was a concerted secret campaign against the provision of public housing for Catholics the the intended goal of driving them out of the country and maintaining the Protestent majority. ITwas as one Unionist Prime minister put it: "A Protestent state for a Protestent people." This sort of crap went on for years before the London government finally got up off their arses and instituted direct rule. The Unoinists were given their chance to rule the state and they chose what could be called an Aparthied style system. There is evidence of collusion betweem Protestant paramillitaries and British security forces especially with reguards to the Dublin and Monaghan bombings and the murder of Belfast solicitor Pat Finuchane. They want out of the UK because the UK has failed them (in their opinion and in mine).
 
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fullamongo    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 11:49:58 AM
You are picking a single year. You must remember that Ireland had just gone through an unpricedented ecomonic boom. The fact is that the unemployment rate has stubbermly stayed at or below 5%. Compare that with 18% 20 years ago. I'll finish this later.
 
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Ehran    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/15/2004 2:18:08 PM
why don't you and your contemporaries get the hell out of Ireland. because they are trying to keep the irish from killing each other in droves. bad a mess as it is imagine it without the british army keeping what passes for peace there.
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 2:34:03 PM
Of course Ireland has experienced rapid economic growth in the 1990's which can be attributed to EU membership and access to the Single Market; Ireland?s low corporation tax rate and a large multinational presence; a high proportion of the population of working age; increased participation in the labour market especially by females; a reversal of the trend of emigration toward immigration; sustained investment in education and training; co-ordinated social partnership agreements and a more stable public finance position but ever since the year 2000, Irelands growth has consistently faltered, in fact the ESRI has cut it's forecast economic performance results for Eire. It has cut its gross domestic product growth forecast for the country's economy this year to 2.2 percent and it downgraded its forecast for gross national product (GNP) growth, regarded by the government as a more accurate measure of Ireland's economic performance because it strips out substantial repatriated foreign investment profits from 2.4 percent to 1.9 percent. According to them- "Next year the economy will pick up but will still be "significantly below potential", growing at 3.1 percent for GDP and 3.2 percent for GNP, ESRI said. The commentary says that while labour market conditions are deteriorating this year the situation is not as bad as had been expected "given the lagged impact of an economy growing below its potential". "We forecast the employment rate to average 4.7 percent in 2003 and 5.1 percent in 2004. "Inflationary pressures are expected to continue to unwind and we expect consumer price growth to decline from an annual average of 3.7 percent in 2003 to 2.6 percent in 2004." The institute says the re-emergence of government deficits does not constitute a "problematic development" but will mean that the budget next December will have to be framed to support the economy in returning towards its potential growth rates -- while ensuring that all public expenditure constitutes value for money."
 
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Ad    RE:Civy   5/15/2004 2:51:41 PM
Devolution was granted in 1921, when the partition took place. The Stormont Government has temporally been suspended. So Northern Ireland has its own assembly, like Wales and Scotland.
 
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