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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. India
5. France
6. Russia
7. UK
8. Italy
9. Israel
10. Pakistan
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/18/2004 8:02:49 PM
"why don't you and your contemporaries get the hell out of Ireland" British soldiers aren't in Ireland. They are in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. Would you also tell American troops to get out of Florida? The Northern Irish wish to remain British. Why should we give NI to a country that the Northern Irish don't want to be a part of? That's like the Americans giving Texas to Mexico.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/18/2004 8:08:25 PM
The UK has the 4th larest economy in the world. Even in 2050 it will be the 7th largest in the world. All the other European countries would have fallen behind by then to leave Britain as the only European nation in the G7. Srditi is talking crap when he talks about Ireland's economy. Ireland is the second-smallest member of the EU, ahead of Luxembourg. Britain is the second-largest - behind Germany. And Britain's population is 15 times larger than the Republic of Ireland.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/18/2004 8:12:38 PM
If Arditi is French, then he has no right to talk about the UK. When will France give independence to Brittany? The majority of Bretons want independence, unlike the majority of Northern Irish.
 
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TOXICITIE 2    GreatBriton   5/18/2004 8:25:07 PM
Arditi last I heared was italian. Don't worry about Artidi he is foolish and is most likley lieing about his identity (check "New posters", he claimed to be at a university in Irland and he can't answer anyone's question of "which university did you teach at") He is a clearly an Anti-Brit European with a "fantasy" of a inferior Britain. Anyways don't get too offended by him.
 
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Couac_Attack    RE:GreatBriton   5/18/2004 9:04:04 PM
"GreatBriton", plz where can i check your sci fiction book, the world youre describing seems so strange that i need to know all the details. About Bretagne ( its it's true name, remember it ), plz can you give me number that proove your point about a majority wanting the independance ???
 
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John Barry    RE:GreatBriton   5/18/2004 10:39:13 PM
"The Northern Irish wish to remain British" That's because Northern Ireland was Gerrymandered to ensure a Pro unionist majority. The historic province of Ulster had 9 counties but you could have had a pro republician majority. So three countries were split off and became part of the South. If you let each county vote to choose between the UK and the South you would get two or three counties joining the South.
 
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John Barry    RE:GreatBriton   5/18/2004 11:06:53 PM
By the way, I in no way support the IRA. Some IRA are misguided who have hear too many Irish Rebel songs. Others are just blood thristy thugs. I think that a Non-violent movement would have been much more effective.
 
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nathan    RE:Great Briton   5/19/2004 12:07:24 PM
I'm sorry, but if you are predicting GDP sizes in 2050, you are either a moron or believe in crystal balls and Taro cards.
 
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croquetou    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/19/2004 1:02:38 PM
RE:Top Ten Armies of the World 5/18/2004 8:12:38 PM If Arditi is French, then he has no right to talk about the UK. When will France give independence to Brittany? The majority of Bretons want independence, unlike the majority of Northern Irish DEAR GREAT BRITON LET THE FRENCH OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION... AS FAR AS I KNOW AN ARDITI IS AN INFANTRY SOLDIER FROM ONE EUROPEAN ARMY I WON'T SAY WICH ONE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANY COUNTRY TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION BEST REGARDS
 
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fullamongo    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/19/2004 2:18:35 PM
"IRA is from Southern Ireland, not Northern. Therefore, Southern Ireland supports IRA. The IRA bombs Northern Ireland, remember" Complete bull! You're worse than Arditi. The IRA is a predominately NORTHERN IRISH organisation. This is illustrated by the fact that its leader Gerry Adams is from Belfast. If southern ireland supported the IRA then why can Sinn Fein barely secure 6 or 7 percent of the vote in an ellection here in the south. They idea that the Irish government supported the IRA's bombing campaign is preposterous and insulting. On the other hand, serious questions are being asked about British security forces involvment in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings which claimed 35 lives or so. No warning was given and they were designed to kill as many people as possible. In terms of money, the IRA raises funds in the US (check out Noraid, the IRA's official Americain fundraising organisation) and from organised crime on the island of ireland. Personally, I've always supported the SDLP (I can't give them much more than moral support as i'm from the south). Have you heard of them or do you think that every Catholic in the north is looking to blow you up? "Ireland is the second-smallest member of the EU" WRONG again. Have you had your head up your ass all this month? 10 new member states joined the EU on my 1st. Most of those who joined are smaller than Ireland. Your figures for the UK do not necessaraly apply to Northern Ireland. For instance, its unemployment rate is 7.4%, higher than the average UK rate. The rate for Roman Catholics is higher again. These figures aren't bad but you can see what Arditi was getting at. You have comprehensively displayed the sort of ignorance towards ireland that does your fellow Britons, like Ad for instance, a diservice. Fie on you sir, fie!
 
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fullamongo    GreatBrition - Langer.   5/19/2004 2:19:05 PM
"IRA is from Southern Ireland, not Northern. Therefore, Southern Ireland supports IRA. The IRA bombs Northern Ireland, remember" Complete bull! You're worse than Arditi. The IRA is a predominately NORTHERN IRISH organisation. This is illustrated by the fact that its leader Gerry Adams is from Belfast. If southern ireland supported the IRA then why can Sinn Fein barely secure 6 or 7 percent of the vote in an ellection here in the south. They idea that the Irish government supported the IRA's bombing campaign is preposterous and insulting. On the other hand, serious questions are being asked about British security forces involvment in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings which claimed 35 lives or so. No warning was given and they were designed to kill as many people as possible. In terms of money, the IRA raises funds in the US (check out Noraid, the IRA's official Americain fundraising organisation) and from organised crime on the island of ireland. Personally, I've always supported the SDLP (I can't give them much more than moral support as i'm from the south). Have you heard of them or do you think that every Catholic in the north is looking to blow you up? "Ireland is the second-smallest member of the EU" WRONG again. Have you had your head up your ass all this month? 10 new member states joined the EU on my 1st. Most of those who joined are smaller than Ireland. Your figures for the UK do not necessaraly apply to Northern Ireland. For instance, its unemployment rate is 7.4%, higher than the average UK rate. The rate for Roman Catholics is higher again. These figures aren't bad but you can see what Arditi was getting at. You have comprehensively displayed the sort of ignorance towards ireland that does your fellow Britons, like Ad for instance, a diservice. Fie on you sir, fie!
 
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Arditi    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this   5/19/2004 3:18:53 PM
To RM-Nod: In all honesty I don't see the point in furthering this aspect of the discussion. You consider Northern Ireland a separate country - I do not. The whole Island is Ireland. From my perspective, any intrusion on the Island is a foreign invasion allowing any type of response by tne natives that will dissuade further encroachment. Why don't we just leave at that and agree to disagree.
 
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JohnBarry    RE:GreatBrition - Langer.   5/19/2004 3:20:17 PM
"IRA is from Southern Ireland, not Northern. Therefore, Southern Ireland supports IRA. I agree with fullamongo. I take it GreatBriton thinks that the South is supporting the IRA to drive the British out and reclaim the North.--- WHAT THE H*LL WOULD THEY WANT TO DO THAT FOR!!!!! The British have loads of trouble with the IRA and the Catholic minority even with all the UK's counter-terrorist, counter-insurgent experience. Can you envision the problems the South would have handling a PO'd Protestant population twice the size of the Catholic population the British are trying to handle. The Protestant terrorist group are every bit as bad as the IRA.
 
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verbero    RE:Rule Britannia    5/19/2004 4:22:53 PM
I've joined this thread late so apologies if I'm repeating things already covered. There are two Rolls Royces. Cars, which is indeed now owned by BMW and the Gas Turbine manufacturer. AFAIK RR Gas Turbines owns Allison of the US. They supply among others, engines for the AV8, the V-22, the C-130 and the new Comanche. I believe that they cannot be taken over by a foriegn company due to military supply issues. Tesco 2003 sales £33 billion (from the Tesco page), Aldi 2002 sales (est) $33 billion (from Forbes), Lidl revenue 2002 approx 22 billion (I'm presuming US dollars since the figures are from Yahoo.com's finance section). I think we can say that Tescos, athough possibly not as large is certainly 'playing with the big boys'. Other than the above points, I agree with everything you have said. Also London did more currency trading per day than Tokyo and New York put together (see the Federal reserve Bank of New York for details). I'm not sure if this is still valid with the ECB being in Germany though. Anyway, I am not convinced that having a large manufacturing sector is such a good thing. Why can't Britain be succesful in services? Ok, enough rambling.
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Arditi - Please respond to this - really respond to it   5/19/2004 5:46:17 PM
"In all honesty I don't see the point in furthering this aspect of the discussion." I thought as much. You can't answer ANY of my question can you? So instead you post this thing about not seeing the point in furthering the discussion. By the way, my questions weren't all about Ireland either.
 
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