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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. India
5. France
6. Russia
7. UK
8. Italy
9. Israel
10. Pakistan
 
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fullamongo    RE:The Irish question   5/15/2004 11:32:56 AM
In the "Protestant state" of northern Irealnd from the '20's till the 60's (i think) most Catholics didn't have the right to vote. Only landowners could vote. If you owned 2 plots of land, you got 2 votes. This system was designed to minimise Nationalist representation in the North. Gerrymandering was a widespread practise. There was a concerted secret campaign against the provision of public housing for Catholics the the intended goal of driving them out of the country and maintaining the Protestent majority. ITwas as one Unionist Prime minister put it: "A Protestent state for a Protestent people." This sort of crap went on for years before the London government finally got up off their arses and instituted direct rule. The Unoinists were given their chance to rule the state and they chose what could be called an Aparthied style system. There is evidence of collusion betweem Protestant paramillitaries and British security forces especially with reguards to the Dublin and Monaghan bombings and the murder of Belfast solicitor Pat Finuchane. They want out of the UK because the UK has failed them (in their opinion and in mine).
 
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fullamongo    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 11:49:58 AM
You are picking a single year. You must remember that Ireland had just gone through an unpricedented ecomonic boom. The fact is that the unemployment rate has stubbermly stayed at or below 5%. Compare that with 18% 20 years ago. I'll finish this later.
 
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Ehran    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/15/2004 2:18:08 PM
why don't you and your contemporaries get the hell out of Ireland. because they are trying to keep the irish from killing each other in droves. bad a mess as it is imagine it without the british army keeping what passes for peace there.
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 2:34:03 PM
Of course Ireland has experienced rapid economic growth in the 1990's which can be attributed to EU membership and access to the Single Market; Ireland?s low corporation tax rate and a large multinational presence; a high proportion of the population of working age; increased participation in the labour market especially by females; a reversal of the trend of emigration toward immigration; sustained investment in education and training; co-ordinated social partnership agreements and a more stable public finance position but ever since the year 2000, Irelands growth has consistently faltered, in fact the ESRI has cut it's forecast economic performance results for Eire. It has cut its gross domestic product growth forecast for the country's economy this year to 2.2 percent and it downgraded its forecast for gross national product (GNP) growth, regarded by the government as a more accurate measure of Ireland's economic performance because it strips out substantial repatriated foreign investment profits from 2.4 percent to 1.9 percent. According to them- "Next year the economy will pick up but will still be "significantly below potential", growing at 3.1 percent for GDP and 3.2 percent for GNP, ESRI said. The commentary says that while labour market conditions are deteriorating this year the situation is not as bad as had been expected "given the lagged impact of an economy growing below its potential". "We forecast the employment rate to average 4.7 percent in 2003 and 5.1 percent in 2004. "Inflationary pressures are expected to continue to unwind and we expect consumer price growth to decline from an annual average of 3.7 percent in 2003 to 2.6 percent in 2004." The institute says the re-emergence of government deficits does not constitute a "problematic development" but will mean that the budget next December will have to be framed to support the economy in returning towards its potential growth rates -- while ensuring that all public expenditure constitutes value for money."
 
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Ad    RE:Civy   5/15/2004 2:51:41 PM
Devolution was granted in 1921, when the partition took place. The Stormont Government has temporally been suspended. So Northern Ireland has its own assembly, like Wales and Scotland.
 
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Ad    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 2:57:35 PM
Catholic Emancipation was granted in 1829, by Wellingtons Tory Government. It had been perused by the brinkman, O?Connell and passed through to the party by a staunch Protestant, Peel. He was a realist. This allowed Catholics to be high ranking officers in the army. A smart move as around a third of the British Army was Irish (Ireland being apart of Britain from 1801-1921), government officials and landowners. Only land owners could vote, as Fullamongo says.
 
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fullamongo    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 3:25:05 PM
Eh, Rule the inflation rate is 1.8% at the moment. The ESRI's spring quarterly review says that Ireland's GNP growth will be 3.3% this year and 4.4% next year. Inflation will grow to 2.2%. The ESRI has constantly underestimated the performance of the Irish ecomony over the past few years. In reality, i expect the economy to do even better. Thats all i have to say about the Irish economy for the moment. Did you see the 'database' at the bottom of this mainpage? Who compiled this? Much of it is wrong in terms of facts and figures. Eg It says that Sweden has 200 combat aircraft but this number doesn't refer to the 300 or so aircraft it has in reserve. Fine but in totting up the nos. for the US they get 7200 which must include the Air National Guard. I suspect that errors like this must be all over the database. BTW: It ranks Russia above the UK. I'm sure you'll have something to say about that. ;)
 
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Rule Britannia    RE:Rule   5/15/2004 4:38:00 PM
-Don't get me wrong I am pleased that the Irish economy is doing so well and am pleased at your optimistic outlook on it's forecasted performance but in light of the way Arditi put it as if Ireland was going to be the economic powerhouse of the British Isles was what made me keen to set the record straight. link link
 
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duck    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/16/2004 2:15:59 PM
1. usa 2. china 3. britain 4. france 5. germany 6. russia 7. israel 8. australia 9. india 10. south corea
 
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Ad    RE:Top Ten Armies of the World   5/17/2004 12:54:25 PM
I know its old ground, but I?m often baffled at the logic behind some of these ?newbies?. Why would Russia be 6th and China 2nd? Either there third and second, or there where they belong- near the bottom.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Rule Britannia   5/18/2004 7:34:47 PM
By the year 2030, the UK will be the largest economy in Europe, overtaking Germany. It is not the UK that's in decline. It's the rest of Europe.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/18/2004 7:39:35 PM
Erm, NO. The majority of the Northern Irish wish to remain as part of the UK.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/18/2004 7:41:08 PM
IRA is from Southern Ireland, not Northern. Therefore, Southern Ireland supports IRA. The IRA bombs Northern Ireland, remember?
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/18/2004 7:54:36 PM
The Irish economy is nothing. Britain's inflation is the lowest in Europe. Its unemployment is the lowest in Europe. Its economy is growing faster than ALL of the EU countries.
 
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GreatBriton    RE:Rule Vs Arditi   5/18/2004 7:57:11 PM
In the EU, only Germany has a larger workforce than Britain. But Germany's workforce is SHRINKING. Britain's is GROWING. Britain will be Europe's largest economy in 2030 and it will be the only European nation in the G7 by 2050.
 
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