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Subject: Top Ten Armies of the World
Arditi    3/4/2004 3:54:10 PM
According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely): 1. USA 2. China 3. Germany 4. India 5. France 6. Russia 7. UK 8. Italy 9. Israel 10. Pakistan
 
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fullamongo    how i got it wrong   3/29/2004 3:48:23 PM
on this page: link it gives in the centre 2 examples of each batch of type 42. 3 batches hence i got 6 (which i thought wa a bit low). i failed to notice the list of eleven on the left hand side. On a board with 105 posts only 2 have given their top ten. come on lads, stick yeer necks out!
 
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Ad    RE:AD- Vivé La Francé!   3/30/2004 3:22:27 AM
I prefer to call these posts? facetious. It sounds a lot more friendly than sarcasm, which of course is the VERY lowest form of wit. If I?m honest (wipe a preverbal tear from my eye) sniff. I miss them! It gets pretty dull on here with out our French ?friends? giving the opposite view to more-or-less everything anybody says. It makes for an interesting argument, which is always good fun! Bring back the French!
 
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trib    RE:AD- Vivé La Francé!   3/30/2004 6:00:43 AM
lol, your top france three is a little wrong :) gendarmerie is way much better than the french reservist. (especially the mobile unit called gendarmerie mobile, which is used to protect special events, important administration building like the senate, or the parliament and they are also used to be project abroad for peace keeping) and for once it's nice to see a "Vive la france" (there's no accent on those word) here instead of a french bashing thread :)
 
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gf0012-aust    AD- Vivé La Francé! - bring back French Stratege   3/30/2004 6:14:27 AM
Ad, I agree, I enjoyed fencing with French-Stratege. In the absence of robust debate it always ends up degenerting into a sports thread (which I reckon are more vicious than the military threads anyway). ;)
 
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private pile    BNP the new Power   3/30/2004 9:29:26 AM
i would say the if they come into power you should count UK the 2nd best millatry in the world in numbers on AFV and Fighters. not in troops as our population cant stand up to countrys like china,russia,us i work very close with the BNP and i talk to meny canidates inculdeing the leader. and i know that they plan to spend around 80-100. i dont have a link where it says this but i do work and know alot of people who is in the party
 
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ojedgreat    my own version of the worlds most powerfull nations   3/30/2004 10:23:41 AM
how can china be number 2 in the place of russia,..and whats germany doing in the list.britain is the strongest nation in eeurope followed by france. in my opinion the list should be as folows: usa russia britain france china northkorea isreal germany india nigeria
 
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Nasty German Idiot    RE:my own version of the worlds most powerfull nations   3/30/2004 12:24:44 PM
Northkorea stronger than Germany ? Well can you give me a reason for that ? They spend all their money on military but doent even come close to the German budget. And i dont even want to talk about their economy and how long it would survive in a War. You could just destroy whats left of their food industry and they would all starve. And personally i dont think you have any Idea of the German Warfighting capability.
 
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french stratege    Take in account short term military potential   3/30/2004 12:50:44 PM
As I said in previous posts to evaluate military power and rank you have to take in account military hardware and its quality INCLUDING FORCE MULTIPLIERS like C4ISR, training, skills, manpower but ALSO technologies, manpower reserve especially on officers and NCO, and war POTENTIAL and ability to scale up quickly. This need a well balanced industry strong in materials(steels, superalloys, aluminium, titane, carbon fibers, rare earths, polymers, etc..), heavy machinery, civilian aeronautic, automotive, electronic components, tooling and instrumentation.Also some assets like reco satellites, nuclear supersilent top subs and intercontinental nuclear ballistic missiles as deterrent are absolutely needed to belong in the first circle of great power. For example if France reintroduce one year mandatory draft AND spend 6.5% of GNP instead of 2 % now it would almost match today US military power in war time.(by having 70% of US brut power). For example France can scale up to MONTHLY rate of 100 fighters per month like Rafales in few months INDEPENDANTLY. And this is only a question of politicall will and perception of threat.
 
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french stratege    Adendum :Take in account short term military potential   3/30/2004 12:53:38 PM
For example if France reintroduce one year mandatory draft AND spend 6.5% of GNP instead of 2 % now it would almost match today US military power in war time.(by having 70% of US brut power). Understand: "war time" after French reserve mobilisation without industry scale up This compare to today US power (without US scaling up)
 
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Ad    RE:Adendum :Take in account short term military potential   3/30/2004 1:00:06 PM
Yes but the probable with producing these ?100 fighters per month? is that you require experienced pilots to fly them, you also speak about a years mandatory draft. I see this as being a contradiction to what you previously said, in terms of quality. Its good to see you back, finally some robust, but interesting discussions!
 
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